Take your pick. I think GWN posts are terrible, insulting, and completely crazy and cross the line all the time. If your line and my line are different...fine. But to say I was trying to make an apples to apples comparison, well, that is on you. I told you I think both GWN and HD went over MY line. As for how far, it wasn't close as I agree that kids/wife's/family are off limits and should never be mentioned and used as a way to "get someone". Is that better??