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It's also pretty well documented that he was a very good HS Football player. https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/08/joe-biden-penn-athletics-football-archmere-2020-election-delaware So...seems like at least two truths. He was also named one of DCs top 10 eligible bachelors because...well, his wife and young daughter died in a car accident.

Yup! Financial literacy! It's important...

This is...so annoying. "I heard he did this." What did you hear... -silence. Why even bring it up if you're not even going to say what the rumor is?

Ok, so you NEVER wrote this part; Just want to clarify here... I also reject the notion that you can just retrain your mind and Monks retraining their minds, doesn't mean there's no therapeutic use for Adderall, but I agree it's over-prescribed, it's self-diagnosed by many people and it's handed out too freely. So was OxyContin, that didn't mean there weren't genuine uses for it. But if you are telling me you didn't say PTSD, addiction, schizophrenia, and dementia are also fake, fine.

LOL...I was with you on the over-prescribed and how it's performance-enhancing, etc...but proclaiming that it serves no actual therapeutic uses? I'm curious what makes you an authority in that area beyond "talking to roommates?" Ok, @MPhillips is this you being sarcastic and changing what he actually said, or did he say something this mind-numbingly stupid? Dementia, Alzheimers, addiction and schizophrenia? TF game is this? Spot the Scientologist?

LOL...yeah, I'll accept(out of ignorance) that it MAY not help you if you require something for ADHD...but I remember taking it once(I worked with this spaz who was always offering). I'm 22, working a summer job, hung over, he asks if I want one of his adderals as I was dragging. He gave me one and...aside from the inside of my cheek bleeding because I was chewing on it all day and watching my heartbeat, I was moving ALL day, didn't stop to eat, nothing. He laughed that he'd given me a 50MG instead of a normal 5(I didn't find it funny, he said it was "like a couple cups of coffee). I mean, it was obviously my fault for taking a medication meant for someone else....that's generally not a good idea, but he also thought it was funny Duck-duck-goosing with me...little shit.

And who said it did?

I agreed and added my own opinion. That's the nature of my response.

You really need to have a common sense approach to this. NO drinking is just not feasible at the College level with ~40 kids on your team. You have to have your finger on the pulse of the team and get out ahead of issues. Kids drinking some beer after Nationals and letting off a little steam, that shouldn't get you kicked off the team. If a kid is drinking in February and getting blackout drunk...Wrestling isn't a priority and they should probably go ahead and transfer to ASU(I kid! Wisconsin is the place for those guys)... Smoking pot? I can't do it, I get paranoid as hell, but I knew a lot of athletes who did and it actually helped motivate them. Again, that should be more of a "is this impacting his attendance in class, is he partying too much, are they not making weight." I don't think smoking pot is that big of a deal...but I'm positive that will be a minority opinion. Drinking is a bigger issue, but I am skeptical that you can eliminate that ENTIRELY, even at PSU. But in-season, that should be obvious.

And in between them, John Smith, the best of his. David Taylor, is arguably the best of his. And it's arguable because we've had so much success, you could easily say JB or Snyder.

Yeah, not so sure about that. In Wrestling, more than any other sport, Great Coaches...we're usually great Wrestlers. It's not a guarantee, but Burroughs? I'd bet on him. I think it's a stupid thread(that's a given)...but not a stupid idea.

Change the mascot also;

I honestly thought that Starocci's comments were about someone else. About guys just taking money(Aliverz for example). I didn't read it as him taking a shot at Taylor. Maybe that's naive, I know everyone else did, but I just viewed it as taking the money to Wrestle elsewhere. There's really no way you can blame DT. If Cael had hinted at hanging it up, I think DT would stay, but...he's not. Also, I thought Sanderson's hirings at PSU was one of the coolest things for the sport at that time, but also REALLY shitty. He elbows out Douglas and then parlays that into the PSU job? And I remember saying right then he's going to build an Iowa like Dynasty(which I remember arguing with my coach about, but I think a LOT of people probably saw that coming given Penn's in-state talent...didn't see THIS type of dominance though). Anyway, I agree, they'd rally behind him. You can't blame the man for doing what..you KNOW you'd do in that situation or what your own coach and mentor did.

I believe he'd still train at the NLWC. You don't just lose those lifelong friendships and bonds because you decide to take one of the top 3, 4 jobs in the sport. If Cael and the kids/young men at the NLWC are who we think they are, they'd 100% be in DT's corner, they'd want him there and to be in his corner.

I didn't actually, but I don't recall everyone saying '65 was a gimme to Mizzou last year.

Yes...that team could absolutely win a NC. That team *could* have 5 NCs. I'd perhaps look for a '25...I'm not sure how good Stratley is yet. I know he's good...but if you're talking about knocking off PSU and TOOSU...might need more there. (FYI, with this Taylor news, Ohio State will henceforth be referred to as TOOSU or the other OSU, either or).

I doubt that's the direction he's going to go. I think people are thinking more along the lines of...PJ Duke or young HS studs that can develop and help Okie St actually contend year in and year out. I'd bet money that HE wanted assurances(aside from his salary which...I'm sure will be the highest in the NCAA) that they'd fund the RTC, they'd provide money so he can have a Casey Cunningham type #1, and a well-paid staff and just money for the infrastructure so he can rebuilt the program and take them back to where they were just 20 years ago.

LMFAO...wow. I said I didn't think Dake would be a great face of the program...he just feels a little too...Aaron Rodgers-ey to me(ignore the political stuff, I'm talking about the other stuff)...but just the weird about some stuff. But, hard to argue with either...when it comes to their respective success in their sport. Though, Rodgers did say he thought psychedelic shrooms strengthened tendon, and he got a little lax on his intake before last NFL season. *Again, NOT vaccine or politically related!!! I want that to be clear. Not a hill I'm even climbing, much less fighting on!

And yet they just set the record for points. They're stronger than ever and they're recruiting at a higher level than ever. They're also spending 2X as much as anyone else. Askren has repeatedly stated his desire to coach AWA. The Badgers AD has been pretty clear about steering away. I don't know that JB, Snyder or Dake want to get into Collegiate Head Coaching. tOSU is in the strongest position now...and PSU is still SO much deeper. They have to find a way to get the #1 overall recruit from his class and one of the two Freshmen who took 3rd at '49 into the lineup. In addition to that, the #1 seed at '25 is likely going to lose his spot next year. No they didn't. They absolutely didn't HAVE to. Mesenbrink, Nagao, Truax, they CHOOSE to go there and they didn't need any of the three to win. Without them you Barclaough at '57 and Facundo at '65. Not exactly chopped liver. The portal ALLOWED them to RS guys who were ready to go like Barr, and at '33 it's not like they scored a whole lot of points anyway. What are you basing your Cunningham guess on? Just...that's when his kid will be 4 years into College? That's it? Still not something either side wants. So David Taylor stays at PSU in your scenario, but it's still gong to help tOSU? If you were talking about in the next 2-3 years, maybe you'd have a point. Still think you'd be wrong, but it'd make sense. Yes. Because you think what Iowa and Michigan have done in any way posed a threat to Penn State. Taylor to Okie State, that will have a significant impact. That wasn't anywhere near your original comment...so...curious how you're taking a victory lap. PSU is still head and shoulders ahead of anyone else. Now, one more school has a chance. When you posted this, there was one school that could reasonably challenge PSU. Now, maybe, in the future, there will be a 2nd. It's also as likely that when Cunningham steps down, Cael does and Taylor goes back to State College.

LOL...that's not real, is it? I'd love to see a list of Dake-isms.

I didn't actually realize he chose not to Wrestle for 3rd...I just wasn't watching closely enough. I think you can make a pretty strong argument he's deserving of getting that match...but maybe in the future it will force people to Wrestle that 3rd place match. Why not? You're there. You get to compete how many times a year? Why would you just sit out a match? I don't get that unless you're banged up. I was also so good I never found myself on the backside. The only man who's more undefeated than Chael! 0 losses at the Olympic Trials, 0 losses at the Olympics, 0 losses in the World Championships... Goddang was I impressive(just don't ask how many wins I had). I'd still give him a Wrestle-off personally(if I could just make my own arbitrary rules based on my opinion), but it's hard to justify it when he didn't go for 3rd.

It really doesn't. I think outside the FB and MBB coach, they all get that 5th year added every year. They did it last year as well...and he wasn't lighting the world on fire then either.

Meaningless. EVERY coach has a 5 year deal. A year from now he's either fired, or they add a year so he has 5 years. But...also, they're unlikely to do anything. It just won't be due to an "extension."

You're just re-wording what I said. Yes, I think people would look at the fact that he lost in both matches to Brooks and then Brooks loses on a technicality and I think it'd carry less weight than his past championships have meant. You can hear it now..."wasn't even the best in the US." I'm not saying people would dismiss it entirely and not count it, but surely it'd be held against him. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Not that I'D hold that opinion, but there are people who nitpick the hell out of everything. There were just posts about how he wrestled in the weakest international weight...not even sure how they came to that conclusion, but they did.

Yeah, that'd be fair.