First, the ref (or is it the assistant?) moves such that his left leg blocks the view of the sideline so it's hard to tell exactly when the feet leave the cylinder.
Second, watch how Haines is physically reacting. He somehow kept most of his body off the mat through a lot of this. He's using his hands and feet to push up and often turning into Robb. The screenshot is clearly OB as Robb's feet are clear of the refs leg. If this had been in the center - control isn't clear until right around the screen shot (maybe a few frames earlier) but that would have to be pretty short time allowed for reaction given how Haines was turning in.
This will be my 48th. My longest streak started in '87 ended in '19. So only 33. Started overall in '71. Missed '73, '77, '86, '20 (But we all missed that year), and '21.
I didn't keep the tickets.
Have to wait this out a bit. Unfortunately when Hammond passed away several years ago a few of us agreed to keep up the Lehigh and EIWA portions actively and some of the NCAA brackets, but I see the hosting company (which changed) is migrating billing info so perhaps that's what's going on also.
They changed to the above in 2000 leading to Minnesota winning in 2001 without a finalist.
I didn't think it was the best way to solve the problem since this increased the number of times that a lower placer could outscore a higher one.
I would have just used the HS system- increasing the advancement points. This also increases points by non-placers.
But it worked and did what they wanted which was to lessen the impact of a top heavy team.
Read his first comment. That's what I was responding to. Can you penalize? Of course you can. Should you? Of course you should. Then when he asks the third question. Should we penalize all moves you can't do against a state champ- not necessarily. That has nothing to do with the first two questions. Then he starts ranting and raving and moving the goalposts. I responded to what he said not to what he was holding back.
Simple.