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And lessens the distance the jaw might be open during a collision.

By sarcasm, I meant on Lisa's part- not yours.

Not sure if there was any sarcasm here but Kirk Chris

Uh, no. Chris's father is Bill. Kirk's sons are named Lane and Thayer.

Not that I'm aware of and I would likely have heard if so.

How far back was back in your day @Boring? Lehigh didn't give scholarships until late 80s for a couple years and then 90s on. The Lieberman brothers had money (70s both NCAA champs). Kirk Pendleton had a lot of money (60s NCAA champ)

Read it again- I said BARRING any of the exceptions they get 1 year.

That's what I said in the quote

Not sure how many people remember the FFWOA from the late 80s into the 90s. They actually made shirts labeled that way (Many Xs). The requirement to being included was that you couldn't make the heaviest weight class! In polite company FFWOA stood for Florida's Finest Wrestling Officials Association. (A lot were from Florida). But it actually stood for Fat F%^& Finest Wrestling Officials Association!

Given 250 years of inflation, they didn't need that much money back then!

Who said he's paying much of anything? The Ivies have very good financial aid and he might be a top student. (Otherwise, he wouldn't be going there)

There was one that said (barring military/religious/I forget the generic term for Peace Corps like time) you had 1 year after your HS class graduates. After that you would lose one of the 5 years unless you competed in that year in which case you would lose one of the 4. But with the nonsense of the QB wanting time back because he went to JC ...

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I don't look at these much but I saw that sentence. That's false. They were largely Christian, of course, but they left England to get away from having to believe in any particular religious belief. They were what was termed Deists at the time and wrote the founding documents in that fashion. They used the terms Creator and Nature's God.

1959 Ed Hamer (Lehigh) beat 1958 Champ Murty Ok State in semis and 1957 Champ Alberts of Pitt in the finals

The Liebermen are Catholic

Someone suggested having them weighin matside when double deck. Think of trying to do this this past year at NCAAs. There wasn't enough room matside as it was for the now wrestling group. People had to walk through the center of the mats to access/egress as it was. People here are making a lot of suggestions without thinking through them.

There are other logistics to consider. Assuming we don't have a perfect power of two sized bracket- who weighs in when? Even if you did- some people will weighin later than others. But if you did have uneven brackets it could be hours of difference between second round opponents.

I believe the Ivy rule is 8 semesters more than graduated or not. Perhaps whichever comes first?

Hadn't heard of any before the 90s either. The college rules had gotten a little silly mid-90s.

BTW- that wasn't meant to be a shot at you by any means. Tihamer was called Wacko and was kind of stiff until his last year or two when he learned how to relax which improved his record considerably.

Did Wacko (Toth-Fejel) hurt you?

You'll note that at no time did I move my lips during the below answers.

My understanding is that Lehigh will not opt in.