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Not sure how many people remember the FFWOA from the late 80s into the 90s. They actually made shirts labeled that way (Many Xs). The requirement to being included was that you couldn't make the heaviest weight class! In polite company FFWOA stood for Florida's Finest Wrestling Officials Association. (A lot were from Florida). But it actually stood for Fat F%^& Finest Wrestling Officials Association!

Given 250 years of inflation, they didn't need that much money back then!

Who said he's paying much of anything? The Ivies have very good financial aid and he might be a top student. (Otherwise, he wouldn't be going there)

There was one that said (barring military/religious/I forget the generic term for Peace Corps like time) you had 1 year after your HS class graduates. After that you would lose one of the 5 years unless you competed in that year in which case you would lose one of the 4. But with the nonsense of the QB wanting time back because he went to JC ...

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I don't look at these much but I saw that sentence. That's false. They were largely Christian, of course, but they left England to get away from having to believe in any particular religious belief. They were what was termed Deists at the time and wrote the founding documents in that fashion. They used the terms Creator and Nature's God.

1959 Ed Hamer (Lehigh) beat 1958 Champ Murty Ok State in semis and 1957 Champ Alberts of Pitt in the finals

The Liebermen are Catholic

Someone suggested having them weighin matside when double deck. Think of trying to do this this past year at NCAAs. There wasn't enough room matside as it was for the now wrestling group. People had to walk through the center of the mats to access/egress as it was. People here are making a lot of suggestions without thinking through them.

There are other logistics to consider. Assuming we don't have a perfect power of two sized bracket- who weighs in when? Even if you did- some people will weighin later than others. But if you did have uneven brackets it could be hours of difference between second round opponents.

I believe the Ivy rule is 8 semesters more than graduated or not. Perhaps whichever comes first?

Hadn't heard of any before the 90s either. The college rules had gotten a little silly mid-90s.

BTW- that wasn't meant to be a shot at you by any means. Tihamer was called Wacko and was kind of stiff until his last year or two when he learned how to relax which improved his record considerably.

Did Wacko (Toth-Fejel) hurt you?

You'll note that at no time did I move my lips during the below answers.

My understanding is that Lehigh will not opt in.

Various workouts (and no I never actually wrestled in a program). Bob Zaro 2xNJ Champ. Herb Campbell NJ champ eventual Lehigh co-captain. Pete Schuyler NCAA 3rd. Mark Lieberman (not really a workout- he just grabbed me one day and I somehow got out). He was stunned (he also wasn't trying). Darryl Burley.

Huh? He was Trump's professor? He's all of about 8 months older.

A feature I had in my old software (80s-early 00s) was a stat showing amount of time wrestled as a ratio (0-1) to amount possibly wrestled (assumed full times 5/6/7 minutes not ot). What I saw was that that ratio was less a factor of how good some were and more how "bad" both were as in the less skilled wrestlers would often just go to their backs. NCAAs were generally in the mid to upper .90s. A JV HS event could easily be under .50.

Don't forget that the increase in TFs means that if Majs stayed the same, the number of dec must have dropped by the same amount to feed the majors back up to that number.

Might not have won D1s (4th) but I'm sure Rulon Gardner won quite a few meals!

Only 1 Olympics and World's hadn't started yet but ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Reed

I'd add 2. Colin Kilrain (3,3,3 80-82)) Joe Peritore (2,2,3 65-67 65/66 to Uetake)

Qualification didn't start until ~2008. I started getting involved around 1973/4. I posted that weight class the other day here. At some point after I got involved (maybe late 80s/90s) we started asking teams to only bring wrestlers with .500+ records but didn't police it. Prior to 1980 it was held in Grace Hall (and before around 1942 in Taylor Gym) where we could only hold 4 mats and even those probably curled up into the stands. As we got into the 90s, it was one of the biggest events in the country 7/8/900 wrestlers at Stabler with 8 mats (we'd laugh at those numbers now as I'm here about to help run the NHSCA with 5800). Consolations were follow the semi-finalists. We went to qualifications to be able to do full double elimination. If you lost to someone from some school other than Blair you were pretty much done.