BigRedFan

Unfortunately, the view switches cameras at the crucial moment, but this video is not edited and I don't think any frames are removed (it looks just like this on ESPN+). https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1A2JzoDCFB/

I'll bet you can think of a few things that could have gone wrong for Cornell that didn't go wrong.

Rokfin is now streaming (for free) on YouTube. Link was on the Penn State forum. Gonna be over soon...

So, you got nothing except an ad hominem and a false dichotomy? Impressive. (did it ever occur to you that Shapiro might have something going on besides concussion issues? Despite my user name, I'm not privy to any inside info on the medical conditions of Cornell wrestlers. I'm guessing you don't either, but that doesn't stop you from making medical diagnoses from afar)

I'm not the one making the claim here, so I'll pass.

I thought that Stanford joined the ACC. Did I misunderstand and Stanford actually joined the Ivy League?

If you have evidence that Shapiro did not pass the concussion protocol but was allowed to continue the match, please present it. If you have evidence that Shapiro passed the concussion protocol but nevertheless suffered a concussion, please present it. Otherwise, please present your view of what it means to be concussed.

So we're now at the "concussion protocols are a joke" and "the wrestler was dazed" stage of the "argument." Carry on.

You are saying that Shapiro *failed* a concussion protocol test during a match and they sent him back out there? Yeah, sure.

No. Nobody who doesn't pass the concussion protocol is sent back out. Just stop.

Fernandez over Vasquez at 149.

Ten. Only three are their expected second semester starters (Ungar, Fernandez, and Ruiz).

Do you have inside access to the registration list?

Only four of the ten expected second semester Cornell starters are at CKLV (Ungar, Saunders (in lieu of Cornella), Fernandez, and Ruiz).

So, CALS ("Ag School") has an admission rate between 11% and 15% (depending on calculation method), and Drexel has an admission rate of ~75%, and it is *Cornell* that is not elite? And CALS is ranked #1 or #2 in Agriculture schools in the US but is not elite? You do understand that, in any case, not all Cornell wrestlers are in CALS, right? Less than half whose school is listed on the roster right now. They have their share in the Engineering College (four), Arts & Sciences (seven), ILR (three), Business (three), Architecture (two), etc. There are a number of good reasons for people to go to CALS, but "not getting into Drexel" ain't one of them. I call BS on the Drexel story (although I can be convinced otherwise with actual evidence): anyone who can get accepted at Cornell (CALS or otherwise) can get accepted at Drexel.

The Lehigh wrestling schedule website also lists the Service Electric Network (which streams other Lehigh home wrestling matches).

No idea how Donnie can coach against his former charges. Ramirez and Foca aren't even enrolled this semester (not injured). Their depth at the missing starters' weights are "room guys." One replacement is wrestling up a weight class (which is odd).

If I were a betting man... They have Buffalo +40.5 vs Cornell. Cornell will not have four of its best starters: Shapiro, Ramirez, Foca, and Davis. Wrestlestat says 27-9 final. Interesting that Wrestlestat's projection with those starters was 39-0. Hmm...

Lord, I can no longer do simple arithmetic. Sigh... As of today's wrestlestat Tournament ranking: Cornell: 53.00 Other Ivy: 10.10 Lehigh: 35.80 Other EIWA: 15.00 What ranking are you looking at with your table wrt wrestlestat? Not that this really matters!

Looking at wrestlestat's tournament rankings, Lehigh would outscore the rest of the EIWA by a lot. (and Cornell would outscore Lehigh, the rest of the EIWA, and the Ivy League, combined)

Binghamton, Brown, Buffalo, Clarion, Cornell, Sacred Heart at Big Red Invitational 9:00 AM https://www.espn.com/espnplus/player/_/id/ffcd1e3c-9f65-4ec3-91fb-dd2f7807f09c (just got added to Cornell's schedule as ESPN+ for some reason!)

Cornell: hold my beer. Flo Intermat WSt 125: Greg D. 10 9 5 133: Ungar 18 20 16 141: Cornella 15 17 20 149: Fernandez 32 14 18 (!) 157: Shapiro 2 2 1 165: Ramirez 7 4 4 174: Ruiz 11 14 52 (really throws things off) 184: Foca 15 8 7 197: Mike D. 26 25 24 285: Davis NR NR NR 40 That sums to a HLD of 82, not counting the infinity for Davis, with only two guys (Shapiro and Ramirez) whose HLD is less than 5. Compare to 51 for tOSU, which has five guys whose HLD is less than 5.

No fear.

If he qualified as having had a concussion, by definition (and common sense) he would not have been allowed back on the mat. We don't know what protocols he passed by medical staff to allow him to attempt to continue.

I've watched every match Shapiro has wrestled since skipping his senior HS year (there may have been a couple that weren't streamed). I've never seen Shapiro "break" unless he was dropped on his head, and then it is pretty obvious there was an issue. It's clear that Shapiro passes whatever concussion protocol tests they administer during a match if he returns to the mat and attempts to finish the match. They wouldn't let him back if he didn't. In the match in question, he clearly wasn't being "pushed," having taken his opponent down twice with yet-to-be-described-in-the-literature TDs prior to attempting a throw that misfired. He won the U20 world tournament by coming back from behind twice (down 4-2 with < 1:00 to go in the 1/8, and down 4-0 in the final including getting a cut on his head needing a wrap), without being a drama queen. The idea that he would break and fold when getting taken down by a "lesser" opponent is, well, delusional.