Scouts Honor

serious question Fix v Teske at some point ithink first period after a td? or maybe 2nd and fix was on top. fix is on top and they are in a scramble and fix dives at ankles etc... the ref almost immediately counts, and there is a stall but fix doens't care b/c end of period and he stayed in control Then the next period teske on top and the same type of situation happens and teske on ankles... no count for about 20 seconds... he finally does count and gives the stall warning. but allowed it for a long time before the count. what was the difference in the situations...? anyone else see this?

i believe in PA they call that a cement job that the osu wrestler was trying from his feet had lee going and then lee reacted and cartwheeled over and stuck the guy lee is playing with fire...that was very dangerous

larry owings wants a word

im not taking a shot at anyone but i dont get the whole.. 130 is the new 141 130 pounders are about 133 pounders 115 pounders or 118 pounders from back in the day.. are 115 and 118 pounders if we talk 133, i would say everyone from 130-135 qualifies no matter the era. is it b/c of the 2 hour weigh in?

i agree, the ankle rides, double thigh pry and double boots should be called stalling

that is kind of crazy how are seeds for ncaa tourney determined? does the coaches poll have anything to do with it... if so i smell a rat

i like this idea... but being in control is still a skill. a hard skill. if everyone could do it...

i do like this idea!!

its called riding time. but i think it's meant as control time. control doesn't mean i turn him, it means i control him. and im old enough to remember the fiasco in international where you couldn't win without 3 points... wasn't a fan of taht. this i must score 2 to get riding time is well.. about the same...

if i were a troll i would say for psu greatness kolat for overall at 133 i would say utake

my vote is kolat

i agree, i talked to a guy whose kid is on scholly D1 and i was disgusted. however, i know some students who make out pretty well as well, but yes.. not every student who is on the team like in football.

i agree. those students have had nil for quite some time... right from the university. they get funded projects and scholarships. many people pay the UNIV. to benefit certain programs of their liking and the money sometimes goes to students who are doing the research etc. or are a top student in their college. I do get what you are saying it isn't the same, but yeah

125: 223 57 (125) :223 133: 267 61 (134) 267 141: 300 65 (143): 300/465 half of these go down 149: 331 70 (154): 165.5+169=334.5 half of these 157 go down 157: 338 half of 157 go up 165: 299 74(163) 169+299 = 468 174: 280 79 (174) 280 184: 262 where do these guys go? 10 more pounds? down 6 up... probably up... 86(190) 117 + 262 = 379 197: 234 half of these go down half go up 92(203) : 117 97(214) : 57 285: 227 1/4 of these go down 127(276): 170 for the first few years it looks like a problem. maybe things will even out... but i dont see us gaining wrestlers at 92 and 97 in college i really dont see the benefit. more people for fewer opportunities in the middle if we switch and more opportuinities for fewer people at the top... also, what do we do when they change again? how often do the international weights change? are they as consistent as ncaa and nfhs? are they done 'scientifically'? like, supposedly the hs weights are a distribution...

i mean i agree dakes feat was incredible.. but he didn't wrestle all those guys. and just b/c more guys wrestled at taht weight, doesn't mean there are fewer wrestlers at the upper weights.. it means fewer wrestled matches... redshirts are going to wrestle... but are the older young kids still seeing competition or waiting until they are 'ready' to compete I dont really see how the freestyle weights address this problem, they add to the upper weights , a 210? or 211? which isn't apparently where the wrestlers are... and take away a weight as someone pointed out.. 149, where there are lots of wrestlers

i dont really want to switch, but... i was thinking about the every four year switch. if we switch we switch not the every 4 years for the olympics

if i'm a senior in college, and my weight class changes from the year before... do i end up like Kolat or mcilravy did when the weights in freestyle changed... a little aced out and in between...

love to see if there is something like this from other states more recently....

dont feed the troll

great dual yesterday OSU takes two of first three to put themselves in striking distance fix gets the major to tie and enough points to win the tie breaker smith isn't done yet it appears.. they knew how many fix had to score

as much as people bad mouth brands for his guys getting hurt... here we are bad mouthing manning for doing the opposite... which is it? maybe the kid needed a break. its not about us...

tell that to the people in grinnell

In 1854 Horace Greeley, a New York newspaper editor, gave Josiah B. Grinnell a famous piece of advice. "Go West, young man, and grow up with the country," said Greeley. Grinnell took Greeley's advice, moved west, and later founded Grinnell, Iowa.

i agree!!

to some extent im sure that wrestling enhanced their play in football... but there are many people in the NFL who didn't wrestle . probably some who only played football ... so are you saying that bball is what made another guy great? was it soccer? ballet like lynn swann? no. they can enhance. but these people are elite b/c of something else... not b/c they learned leverage in wrestling. they could have learned leverage playing football. or rugby or maybe they never did and have another way to win the one on one in the trench.