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I actually do. A controlling ride looking to break the bottom wrestler down. The tactic of as soon as the bottom wrestler gets to their feet, you run them to the edge and "attempt" a return going out of bounds.. or dropping to a leg as soon as the bottom wrestler is about to escape.. should be called stalling more frequently, but the refs don't want to "decide" the match so the tactic is allowed. But I agree. Ride outs is about the worst way to decide a winner of a wrestling match that I could imagine. Getting a match to ride outs is the best way for an inferior wrestler to pull off an upset (Seymour over Lilledahl). Anything can happen in those 30 seconds, and choice is huge. It's not nearly as bad, but it's kind of like the old ball grab era in freestyle.

This is the problem.

These guys don't know what they're talking about. The only reason Dana didn't sign Ben during his prime is because his style was boring. Ben was the #1 fighter in the world outside of the UFC for years before he retired, and then came back after his prime with a bum hip. Anyone that is arguing for Bo has no knowledge of how the MMA world works. This match-up was supposed to be a stepping stone for Bo, not his first MMA loss. The fact that he did lose just proves how much growth he needs to be a legitimate contender in the UFC. It's not like it was a freak knockout or a weird submission. He was simply bested by someone who displayed a far better foundation of MMA skills than himself.

lol wut?

The fact that we don't see many long and lanky wrestlers at the higher levels of wrestling. I'm not saying you can't be successful with that body type, but if you were going to create a wrestling in a lab, I don't think you're using Nick Simmons as the prototype.

To your original question about what would be the ideal wrestling body type, I think it's pretty evident being long and lanky is not ideal. And I would say much less ideal in freestyle than in folk where the long guys usually thrive on top. Likewise, Chance is a true anomaly with his body type. I never believed he would be legitimately competitive at 86kg at 5'7".

Don't confuse him with logic. You might find yourself next in line to get snapped like a toothpick.

Dammit Jimmy, you've done it again. Always asking the questions others dare not to ask. A lion amongst sheep. Kings stay kings, Jimmy. Never change.

I want someone to ask him if Bo Nickal was rooting for Burroughs at Worlds last year..

I haven't seen or heard a word from Aaron Pico since he started fighting in Bellator. On the other hand, I can't get away from seeing Bo Nickal content. I am not going to root for an arrogant prick just because he comes from the same sport I like. He's a clown and maybe he'll be more tolerable now that he can't pretend like he'd beat anyone in the world if given the chance. The UFC has coddled him and selected opponents to help him build his reputation and anticipation of his future match-ups, and he got booed in his last fight for being so boring, and then just got embarrassed in this fight.

I can tell you one thing.. that promo almost makes me not to watch the event and I love the sport. Can't imagine many people saw that and circled the date on their calendars.

When is the offensive wrestler "going to be called" for stalling? Is this when the referee begins a count? So essentially you're just taking away 4 seconds at a time and creating a whole new mess for the scoring table to manage? Or is it when the top wrestler is called for stalling the riding time stops? I actually love the idea that if you get called for stalling in the top position that riding time stops. Especially in tie-breakers. It would essentially give you two potential ride-out results. A dirty ride out when you take a stall call (can't get 30 seconds of RT) or a clean ride out where the wrestler would get their full 30 seconds of RT.

I'd agree. I was hoping that someone would admit either stand by their take or eat some crow. Spout off ridiculous statements, and either own them or admit you were being a silly boy. But I think "the beast" just says things off of feelings rather than any actual wrestling intel. I think Kish has done a good job considering he hasn't even put one of his own recruiting classes on the mat yet, but they've brought in some quality recruits and some guys that are under the radar. Again, I choose to hope for positivity before burying a coaching regime. Oklahoma is not Oklahoma State, and they haven't been all that relevant since Spates. If they could return to a consistent top 10 program, that would be huge in todays world of college wrestling.

I think you are 100% correct. I know personally, there were guys I wrestled multiple times, and whether I knew I was better or not, some guys you just know it's not going to be a fun wrestling match. I assume everyone going into a match with Mesenbrink is thinking "this spaz is just going to slap me silly and take 1000 shots in the next handful of minutes." Wrestling against Mitchell looks like a terrible time, win or lose.

@Boring Still waiting for your response.

Does anyone know why Kellen Wolbert is projected to be a 157 in college, but is wrestling at 61kg in this tournament? I get that he wrestled at 144 during the regular season, but it seems like he may be a bit smaller. Just curious.

The U.S. Open in golf is an "open" because anyone can play if they make it through a qualifier. Open means that anyone can qualify to compete, not necessarily that literally anyone can compete in the singular event. I do think creating a qualification system, especially for u17/u20 could be difficult, but some of these brackets are a little absurd.

Dake and I are the same age. I've been saying it for the last handful of years that I can't believe guys like him, Taylor, and Burroughs could still maintain the grind that it takes to be near the top of the world after your body has physically peaked. How many 34 year old wrestlers are winning world titles from any country? Dake also just isn't an 86kg wrestler.. at least right now.

I have mixed feelings. You could make the same argument about a pin in collegiate. I think of the biggest one being Jenkins pin over Taylor in the NCAA finals. I wanted to see the match play out, but in our sport there are ways to end a match early. Is getting caught in a lace or trapped arm gut that much different than a cradle? I feel like I want more wrestling in both scenarios. That being said, the death sentence that is often signed by getting laced or trap armed is underwhelming. Edit: Typo

That actually makes your previous post a lot funnier. I have no idea what goes into the seeding in these tournaments though, so your guess is as good as mine.

You know William Denny is ranked #2 at 165 right? He's very good and just got tech'd by D.

I'd assume that would be similar to DeShazer and they have him as FF for his two matches he didn't wrestle today. The mystery continues..

Tough showing for Endene this weekend. Lost to Laird (who is tough) and Lanham (who I have never heard of). I'm also a little curious why he was at 97kg rather than 92kg. He looked far from big.

I'm waiting for an answer on this as well.

You could always, ya know, just say this I was wrong.. you don't have to call me functionally illiterate.. that's pretty mean, man. When you say "I would be stunned if OU had a single guy make the r12 next year," but in the next breath admit that you can't name five of the guys who are likely to start for them, it really cuts into the credibility of your previous statement. The brighter spots in their line-up next year: 125: Beric Jordan (#21 big boarder in 2024) 133: Tyler Wells (R12, R16) 141: Alex Braun (#20 big boarder in 2024) 149: Jack Gioffre (R16) 157: Peyton Keller (AA - 5th in 2024) 184: Deanthony Parker (R12) I'll just leave that there. I think you may be stunned next March.