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I don't understand your point. The question was which conference is the second best. Yeah, having more schools generally makes a conference tougher..

I don't think anyone has anything but love for MIZZ and Coach Smith. I'll be cheering.

especially not with that username.

That's the reason that everyone should be a fan of Bo Bassett. This match is taking place a week after Bo won a world title on the other side of the planet. I would assume Bo has been spending 99% of this offseason focusing on freestyle. Between the travel and lack of folkstyle reps, I don't think anyone would really blame Bassett if he said he wanted a couple of weeks to gear of for folk and that he'd see Stanich at the All-Star. But Bo just doesn't give a rip. He'll genuinely wrestle anyone, anytime. He isn't afraid to lose. He isn't concerned about the circumstances I just mentioned above. He's taking on Stanich for his first official match and could start his collegiate career 0-1. Hats off to both Stanich and Bo though. They knew this dual was happening and they agreed to wrestle again in two weeks at the all Star to make this year a likely trilogy between them. These guys are dawgs. How great would it be if we had more guys willing to put it on the line like them.

The B12 is clearly the second best conference. Oklahoma State, Iowa State, and Arizona state are deep and highly competitive teams. Missouri is a little down but they're still a very quality team. Oklahoma doesn't have the top tier talent but they have a solid guy at each weight. Wyoming always has at least a scrappy squad. UNI is a very solid program as well. I think the Pac 12 is a better conference than the Ivy. Don't forget they added affiliate teams this year so they now have Oregon State, Cal Poly, Little Rock, NDSU, SDSU, Northern Colorado, and Airforce. Not a lot of AAs necessarily but they have a lot of legitimate NCAA qualifier talent. But it also depends on what metric you want to use. Most NCAA qualifiers, most AAs, etc. Hopefully Columbia builds on their performance last year, but for the most part, Cornell is the ivy league on the national level.

As mentioned above. matsavant.com. For the basic task of looking up and seeing an individuals results, I actually think it's better than wrestlestat. When you begin typing a name in the search bar it automatically pulls up suggested wrestlers. At least for me on wrestlestat, more than half the time I would search a wrestler's name in their search bar, it would say no wrestler found. I would have to google "Wrester X wrestlestat" to pull it up and then login each time. It was a very inconvenient issue, but I wasn't about to complain when they were providing the service for free. Matsavant has a cleaner and more friendly UI.. and it's free, at least for now.

This is a ridiculous statement. There is a reason that 5 if not 6 of those guys will be backups this year. My god, the first guy you named is coming off of a freshman campaign where he placed 2nd. What are you even talking about?

Is this a post questioning the ability of DT and co.'s coaching ability? You mention Merrill who made the finals as a freshmen last year.. And for Oklahoma State holdovers.. Doucet went from DNP to 4th, and Spratley went from DNP to 2nd and 5th at a very volatile weight.

I literally just did that, and you told me what I meant anyway. You incorrectly inferred my sentiment. Maybe it was my wording, maybe you jumped to a conclusion that was actually said. I don't know. My only point was that it's not the Cold War, and the for us or against us dichotomy is antiquated. It doesn't make anyone less American if they choose to root for someone from another country in a sporting event. Rooting for someone simply because they are American is literally by definition a base reason. Not a bad reason. I was simply suggesting that there are plenty of valid reasons for someone to root for RBY without being traitorous. I never said nor suggested that it was bad or lesser to root for Americans. My original post was in response to a suggestion that someone's loyalty should be to their country rather than a school. Maybe that helps you understand my point, maybe not. Either way, take is easy, brother.

Facundo winning a match where he scored 2 takedowns is good. If he won this match 2-1 I would be much more concerned with the result.

Base does not mean bad or lesser. It is the basis for something. The default. "A base reason (or a foundational/basic reason) means the primary, underlying, or most fundamental cause behind something. It is the core starting point or root factor upon which an argument, decision, or event is built." Sheesh.

You're right. Never thought of it that way..

Not sure if bracket links work on the new flo or not. Let me know. https://www.flowrestling.org/nextgen/events/16266738/brackets?bracket=32DqJUhSoEbK6VK2ws

Finals match-ups and other results.. Zinkin in the finals Jax vs TK Davis Raney vs Jamison Vega vs Raney Robideau vs Burton Swiderski and Routledge 1-1 heading into OT. Swiderski with TD Lockett vs Swiderski in the finals 174-285 still going..

So a big hole at 141 right now. 149: Shaw in the driver's seat right now?

What weight was Antonio Mills at here? Bouzakis finishes 6th.. at the Clarion? Ouch.

Biggest takeaways so far? Any surprises?

Wondering if any of our lovely Oklahoman Brethren are attending the event today and willing to post any interesting things they see that can't be captured by the score in the bracket. I see that Cael Hughes lost to the 11 seed from Gardner-Webb. There were two other GW wrestlers seeded higher in the bracket, so does that mean Hughes lost to Gardner-Webb's third string wrestler? Nothing else of note yet. Semis should be underway in the next 30 minutes or so. Highlights of the semis: 141: Jamison vs Ramirez 165: Swiderski vs Routledge

Maybe your comprehension was brutal. The part that you clipped and sent to BigRed was not me at all saying that you shouldn't root for Americans because you are both Americans. It was stating the fact that to root for someone solely based on where they happened to be born is a base reason. There are plenty of factors that would be more nuanced reasons to root for/against someone than what country they rep.

It warmed my heart.

Spencer with a takedown and continuous lace over RBY. Tech in 20 seconds.

Wow.

Did you mean to quote me?

The quoted statement is very flawed in itself. But we will ignore that. The idea that Spencer Lee is representing YOU as an American was a 20th Century Propaganda campaign. Reading some of these comments I would think we're in the midst of fighting the red scare. The fact that you and a USA rep both happened to be born on the same land mass is about the most base level reason to possibly root for someone. Acting like anyone's loyalty to America should be questioned over who they root for in a wrestling tournament is ridiculous. It's a wrestling match. There are no negative consequences bestowed upon the losing athlete's country. If Spencer loses, America will be exactly the same tomorrow as it is today. No one is betraying their country or being anti-American if they root for RBY to win a wrestling match.