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IIRC it was going downhill even before that. But it could have been the reason Iowa started the Soldier Salute which further watered it down.

A bunch are disappointed/annoyed they didn’t get to see it from the fan’s perspective, which I’d agree with, don’t see too much speculation about why it didn’t happen other than one guy saying maybe they wanted to ensure Ferrari stays undefeated in his career (which I’d doubt was a factor) or maybe Arnold did actually get dinged up earlier in the tournament (which would really be the only acceptable reason IMO).

Brands implies they’re not decided yet. I’m assuming no one asked him why did Ferrari wrestle attached?

Fair enough, maybe it’s not many “people.” @bnwtwg definitely though. Yes, 197’s often do better at heavyweight. Using Bastida as an example for not is pretty funny, considering he was undefeated going into NCAA’s including wins over the guys that ended up finishing 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th (two of those by major) he was/is most definitely better at heavyweight, but was injured during NCAA’s last year. Looking at this season, you’ve also got Isaac Trumble, best finish R16 at 197, currently ranked #5 at heavyweight. Other past examples: Lucas Davison: best finish R16 at 197, 3x AA and 1x finalist at heavyweight Cassar: backup at 197, champ at heavyweight Derek White: slightly over .500 at 197, R12 then NCAA finals at heavyweight Jacob Kasper: 1-2 at NCAA’s at 184, 2x AA at heavyweight As a lightweight guy, I would actually disagree that “125’s often do better at 133.” If anything that might be the jump guys struggle with the most. Looking back in the wrestlestat era unless I missed it I don’t see a single guy such as the above that wrestled 125 as a non-redshirt and failed to AA, then bumped up to 133 and AA’d. Sure lots of guys that did well at 125 also do well at 133 though. Closest example might be Vito who went from 3rd & 4th at 125 to a 2x champ at 133, but if you use that example then you’d also have to use Kyle Snyder in the first list considering he had 4 losses at 197 and only 1 over the next 3 years at heavyweight.

McNeil went camo singlet in the finals however

And when 197’s go up to heavyweight they often do better too. Yet people think we need more upper weight classes…

Dean Heil (OSU) and his brothers Logan (Cleveland State/Campbell) and Josh (Campbell) combined for 2 NCAA titles. Both from Dean though

AJ and Angelo Ferrari hoping to get on the list

Buchanan wins 15-4

Pretty sure the first MFF in a tournament would normally count as a loss, but that matches against teammates do not count at all.

Forgot that we can thank Kevin Dresser for this

Oh wait I think inter-team matches don’t count anymore

Wait Arnold is the one that MFF’d? Doesn’t that count as a loss for him??

Will be interesting if there are any boos from the fans if so. This would also make Ferrari wrestling attached make even less sense.

Caliendo reversal and secures riding time, Sparks escape, Caliendo wins 7-6

Sparks leading Caliendo 5-4 going into the third. Caliendo starts down

Yeah that was what he was wearing earlier. Looks like it’s in Colorado and he is from Colorado

Parco over McNeil 8-5

Heller over Cartegena-Walsh. Rutgers put a bunch of guys in the finals but they haven’t looked particularly great and several lost after leading well into the match

Norman wins 11-5. Fans nervous Incontrera would get seeded in the top 3 all breathe a collective sigh of relief

Lillard over Mayfield 7-3

Lovett over McGee in TB on RT

Abas starts down, escapes then runs for the rest of the period to win 10-9

Abas/Wasilewski 9-9 into the 3rd