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It was racist and stupid for people to take a picture together?

One other tangent on the whole “growing the sport” thing is that while adding another subscription service isn’t ideal for wrestling fans, it’s also potentially exposing wrestling to fans of the UFC that already subscribe to Fight Pass.

Does Mizzou have any other duals on there? Their schedule only indicates the duals on Flo, but there are several away duals against good teams that don’t list the streaming info (such as Stanford 1/10, WVU 1/26, Cornell 1/28, and Iowa State 2/25).

Yea it might depend how the rankers consider the All-Start match. I don't know if anyone "weighs it lower," I think they either count it as a regular match (Flo), or that it didn't happen at all (Intermat). If it didn't happen at all then it's Noto for sure. If it happened I could still see it as Noto, but I don't think it's "easy" and Surtin has an argument IMO.

I wonder if UFC suggested Mizzou go with the 2-piece uniforms here?

FWIW, UFC did put out clips of like every match. Here are a few:

Well, here’s another post by the person that said Bailey is a thug (which a reminder, I was not even originally counting as one of the 4 racist comments): I know as someone said earlier, x/twitter is a cesspool, but I do feel like at least in wrestling conversations the number of overtly racist comments under that post did still seem out of the ordinary. Although getting off topic but speaking of x/twitter being a cesspool, I have also noticed a steady increase in porn accounts replying to wrestling posts which is annoying…

Do we know if Gable is coming back? I think it’s between him and Gomez for the title of most retirements right?

I’m hoping for that next year if Starocci comes back

When everyone else is taking losses, it kinda is. 3 of his 4 losses at NCAA’s are to guys that graduated. Prior to this season, his only losses to guys in the current field were to Barnett and Surtin. In 2022 he had wins over Ayala and Caleb Smith, as well as Latona. Speaking of Surtin, IMO he should be #1 now, and he would fit your same definition of “a guy that’s been around awhile and has never AA’d.” It’s gotta be either him or Noto, but Noto lost to Ramos at the All-Star and Surtin did pin Noto in their only meeting at 2022 NCAA’s.

I don’t really follow the UFC but don’t they have some fights on ESPN+? That would seem like the most likely merger. Plus there is also some collaboration with ESPN+ and ACC/Big 12 so ESPN seems willing to partner. Flo used to have a deal with BTN but seems like BTN was the one that broke that off. Yeah I highly doubt Flo and Rokfin will be joining forces on anything. Sorry @Husker_Du Rokfin seems like the most likely to be the odd man out…it’s the most expensive subscription, including a recent 50% price increase despite less live college/international wrestling content than it had when it first started not to mention the live events it does have often requiring an additional cost (seems like they’ve been having more HS events but that’s probably a different audience). And the presence of all the weird non-wrestling content will likely also prevent collaboration with a sports-focused streaming company. Although if it’s true USAW is coming out with its own streaming service, Flo could be in trouble too as they seem to be getting less and less access to high profile events.

The wrestlers seem to care a little, like when they took that picture a few years back of all the black national champs, which I thought was a cool thing to do. Yes, people should all be treated the same but it’s still okay to be aware of your own/other people’s heritage.

I presume these are his parents https://www.instagram.com/p/B86yf_OnS6b/?img_index=1

Ah, good catch, the Brain is a good nickname

That was UWW+ I believe, and it seems like USAW will be coming out with its own.

I think he mostly just had his math backwards. He said 16, so 40% not 60%. Still a lot compared to most other schools I’d imagine. Some of them are younger but yes a lot are graduating and I don’t recall if there’s much diversity outside of Mason Gibson

I do agree Jimmy was stereotyping also. But one of the 4 comments I referenced was from a Hawkeye fan…

Baylor Fernandes on the other hand…

The % may be lower, but I think it’s clear the number of a holes in the wrestling world is not insignificant. And those 4 comments are not even counting others that were not quite as drastic, such as calling him a thug or saying he should be kicked out of wrestling forever which is laughable.

Obviously didn’t need to retaliate like that, but looks like Vito did give him a knee to the head at minimum. The headbutt may not have been intentional though.

Maybe part of is continuing to encourage more blacks to wrestle?

If you like freestyle wrestling, sounds like pretty soon you will also need USAW+ or whatever they decide to name it

Of the 28 replies, I count 4 clearly racist replies including 1 use of the n word (but at least x/twitter censored it). Not a good look. Hopefully some of these people learn to be decent humans for Christmas but I doubt it.