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Ah, I see, you were referring to “Michigan 125,” haha

I’m sure D1 athletes are a small fraction of the number, so I think even the 35% is pretty significant.

West looks like he could be decent. Only loss was to Heinselman 3-2 and was 25-2 in redshirt last year

McHenry lost to Gonzales and Mauger. Medley lost to Koontz (and McHenry). Gonzales looked decent in the wrestleoff against Heinselman, and beat Koontz himself, but he also lost to MSU’s Benny Gomez and NIU’s Blake West. Mauger lost to Koontz and West as well.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=569 Looks like as of 2015-2016, 56% took longer than 4 years, so he’s technically correct. But that does appear to be driven by older students. “Only” 35% of students 23 or younger took longer than 4 years. But I guess guys like Daton Fix (could be wrong) probably would have been 23 even if they graduated in 4 years

I think the main argument in that regard from @Dark Energy was essentially that for every 4 athletes that receive a full scholarship for 5 years, that could be converted to 5 athletes getting a full scholarship for 4 years. I guess that would be a benefit, but IMO does not outweigh the current benefits of redshirting. I also found it weird that he apparently has no issue with grayshirting. Grayshirting is more of gaming the system to me and for the most part is only an option for those that can afford it. And if redshirting were eliminated you can be sure that more coaches will encourage grayshirting which would not be a positive IMO.

Saw that Kurt McHenry beat Medley at the MSU open (speaking of which, does anyone have a link to brackets? I don’t see it on Floarena and keep getting error messages or prior year brackets on Track). But also lost to Andre Gonzales of tOSU and Kase Mauger of UVU. And Medley also lost to Brady Koontz of tOSU. Is Medley still the guy here?

Is there anything stopping a college student from participating in band, plays, etc for 5, 6, 7 years as long as they fulfill their requirements? I would argue athletics are MORE restrictive than other in-school activities, not less. (I don’t think comparing to academic classes is fair though, as athletes are students too. But yes, regular students can delay taking certain classes if they want, or even *gasp* take 5 years to graduate)

I think this is the first I’ve heard of someone arguing the current generation of kids being more prepared academically than in the past. What about all that time they spend on their phones!! I would say for academic reasons, or more specifically, adjusting to college while at the same time the rigor or D1 athletics, is the main reason for redshirting IMO. I would agree that athletically, more guys are ready to compete right away. And more have been! But that isn’t the case for everyone

Terukina over 2x AA Eric Barnett

Any chance Ramos MFF’s?

What was that?

I guess this can be the Clarion Open thread? I assume Jack Pletcher is Luke’s brother? Was he a good recruit?

I don’t really see the downside in redshirting. If you are concerned about the combo of pre-college “redshirting” and actual redshirting creating an advantage, I guess you could probably just institute a maximum age rule?

I think he was saying Morton had injuries (not Lovett) and that may have contributed to the less than spectacular D2 record?