SetonHallPirate

The rest of the EIWA only had one weight without an allocated spot last year (149).

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance Monday, December 18: Cornell vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Iowa State vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Cornell vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Iowa State vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Cornell vs. Iowa State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Little Rock vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Tuesday, December 19: Kent State at Northern Illinois, 12:00 PM (11:00 AM) Duke vs. The Citadel at Queens, 12:00 PM North Dakota State at Campbell, 1:00 PM Purdue vs. Stanford at Campbell, 1:00 PM The Citadel at Queens, 1:30 PM Kent State vs. Harper at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Northwestern at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Stanford at Campbell, 3:00 PM North Dakota State vs. Purdue at Campbell, 3:00 PM Lock Haven vs. NC State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Northern Iowa vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Duke at Queens, 3:00 PM Harper at Northern Illinois, 4:00 PM (3:00 PM) Purdue at Campbell, 5:00 PM North Dakota State vs. Stanford at Campbell, 5:00 PM Lock Haven vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) NC State vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Lock Haven vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) NC State vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Fairmont State at West Virginia, 7:00 PM Oklahoma State at Wyoming, 8:00 PM (6:00 PM) Wednesday, December 20: Hofstra at Morgan State, 2:00 PM Bloomsburg vs. Hofstra at Morgan State, 4:00 PM Bloomsburg at Morgan State, 6:00 PM Thursday, December 21: George Mason at Gardner-Webb, 1:00 PM Edinboro at Sacred Heart, 4:00 PM Ohio at Gardner-Webb, 5:00 PM George Mason at Queens, 6:00 PM Navy at American, 7:00 PM Cleveland State at Clarion, 7:00 PM Illinois vs. Missouri at St. Louis, MO, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Friday, December 22: Army West Point, Binghamton at Wilkes Open, hosted by Wilkes, 9:30 AM Binghamton, Brown, Central Michigan, Franklin & Marshall, Indiana, Lehigh at Sheridan Invitational, hosted by Lehigh, 10:00 AM *Edinboro at LIU, 4:00 PM *Edinboro at Hofstra, 7:00 PM

Given that Bryan Arseneau is a member of the compliance staff at the University of Michigan, I think that should be a dead giveaway as to where he's headed...

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance Friday, December 15: California Baptist at Northern Illinois, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Oregon State at CSU Bakersfield, 10:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, December 16: Sacred Heart at Davidson, 11:00 AM Little Rock vs. Queens at Chattanooga, 2:30 PM Little Rock at Chattanooga, 4:00 PM Morgan State at North Carolina, 5:00 PM Queens at Chattanooga, 5:30 PM Drexel vs. Ohio at Vincent, OH, 6:00 PM Michigan State at Clarion, 7:00 PM South Dakota State at Nebraska, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Sunday, December 17: Buffalo at Bucknell, 11:00 AM California Baptist, CSU Bakersfield, Oklahoma, Utah Valley, Wyoming at Reno Tournament of Champions, 12:00 PM (9:00 AM) Bloomsburg vs. Buffalo at Bucknell, 12:30 PM Kent State at Lindenwood, 1:00 PM (12:00 PM) Stanford at Virginia Tech, 1:00 PM Bloomsburg at Bucknell, 2:00 PM Air Force at Missouri, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Otero JC at Northern Colorado, 2:00 PM (12:00 PM) *North Carolina at Appalachian State, 3:00 PM California Baptist at SIU Edwardsville, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) North Idaho College at Northern Colorado, 3:30 PM (1:30 PM) California Baptist vs. Kent State at SIU Edwardsville, 4:30 PM (3:30 PM) Northwest Kansas Tech at Northern Colorado, 5:00 PM (3:00 PM) Kent State at SIU Edwardsville, 6:00 PM (5:00 PM)

Just 10% now...they boosted conference placement to 15% at the expense of the CR.

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-Indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance Thursday, December 7: Michigan State at Buffalo, 7:00 PM Friday, December 8: VMI at Kent State, 1:00 PM Gannon at Kent State, 2:30 PM VMI vs. Mount Union at Kent State, 2:30 PM Mount Union at Kent State, 4:00 PM Princeton at Rutgers, 6:00 PM Duke at Davidson, 7:00 PM Columbia at Iowa, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Wyoming at Missouri, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Lehigh at Oklahoma State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) West Virginia at Air Force, 9:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, December 9: *Army West Point, Cleveland State, Kent State, Northwestern, VMI at Cleveland State Open, hosted by Cleveland State, 9:30 AM Wisconsin at Rider, 12:00 PM Central Michigan at Indiana, 2:00 PM Bloomsburg at LIU, 4:00 PM Wisconsin at Drexel, 6:00 PM Sunday, December 10: Pittsburgh at Ohio State, 12:00 PM Hofstra at Penn State, 1:00 PM Navy vs. Ohio at Jefferson, PA, 2:00 PM Buffalo at Rutgers, 2:00 PM North Dakota State at Minnesota, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Maryland at Morgan State, 3:00 PM West Virginia at Northern Colorado, 3:00 PM (1:00 PM) Columbia at Northern Iowa, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Oklahoma State at Oklahoma, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM)

Which is kind of why I'm trying to find some ways to mitigate things. Obviously we don't want a zugzwang situation like the one the OP mentioned in his response post to what I said, but I'm trying to make the coin toss situation interesting, to blunt the disadvantage (in that the coin toss loser doesn't get to choose anything in the current rules). I used to think the locked lineup thing was a good idea, but I've gotten to the point where I realize it's probably better to blunt the impact of the coin toss than it is to totally eliminate it, and I feel like start weight choice is an effective way to do that. And much as I've previously said "it's about the kids", I needed to stop living in the land of make-believe.

https://lindenwoodlions.com/news/2023/12/1/general-athletic-department-special-announcement.aspx To say I'm highly disappointed in them is a massive understatement.

Man, I've probably either gotten that wrong, or unintentionally gotten it right, a zillion times over the past four years. Good thing they don't let me within 50 feet of a microphone.

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance. Thursday, November 30: Bellarmine at Lindenwood, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Friday, December 1: Air Force, Appalachian State, Arizona State, Binghamton, Cal Poly, Campbell, Columbia, Cornell, CSU Bakersfield, Harvard, Hofstra, Iowa State, LIU, Maryland, Michigan, Morgan State, Navy, NC State, Nebraska, North Carolina, Northern Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Purdue, Rider, Sacred Heart, South Dakota State, Stanford, The Citadel, Utah Valley, Virginia Tech, Wyoming at Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational, Las Vegas, NV, 12:00 PM (9:00 AM) Rutgers at Edinboro, 7:00 PM Iowa at Penn, 7:00 PM Oklahoma at Missouri, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, December 2: *Lindenwood at Drury Open, hosted by Drury, 10:00 AM (9:00 AM) Buffalo vs. Kent State at Gardner-Webb, 10:00 AM *Northern Iowa at Jim Koch Open, hosted by Wisconsin-Parkside, 10:00 AM (9:00 AM) *Army West Point, Lindenwood, Little Rock, Minnesota, Missouri, Northern Colorado, Northern Illinois, SIU Edwardsville at Cougar Clash, hosted by SIU Edwardsville, 11:00 AM (10:00 AM) Buffalo vs. Chattanooga at Gardner-Webb, 12:00 PM Kent State at Gardner-Webb, 12:00 PM Davidson at George Mason, 12:00 PM *Air Force, Appalachian State, Arizona State, Binghamton, Cal Poly, Campbell, Columbia, Cornell, CSU Bakersfield, Harvard, Hofstra, Iowa State, LIU, Maryland, Michigan, Morgan State, Navy, NC State, Nebraska, North Carolina, Northern Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Purdue, Rider, Sacred Heart, South Dakota State, Stanford, The Citadel, Utah Valley, Virginia Tech, Wyoming at Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational, Las Vegas, NV, 1:00 PM (10:00 AM) Cleveland State at George Mason, 1:30 PM Buffalo at Gardner-Webb, 2:00 PM Chattanooga vs. Kent State at Gardner-Webb, 2:00 PM Davidson at American, 6:00 PM Virginia at North Dakota State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Sunday, December 3: Bloomsburg vs. VMI at Franklin & Marshall, 10:00 AM Michigan State at Franklin & Marshall, 10:00 AM *Davidson, George Mason, Lock Haven, Penn at ARMS Software Patriot Open, hosted by George Mason, 10:00 AM *Clarion vs. West Liberty at Drexel, 11:00 AM *Little Rock at Drexel, 11:00 AM Bloomsburg vs. Presbyterian at Franklin & Marshall, 11:30 AM VMI at Franklin & Marshall, 11:30 AM *Clarion vs. Little Rock at Drexel, 12:30 PM *West Liberty at Drexel, 12:30 PM Bloomsburg vs. Michigan State at Franklin & Marshall, 1:00 PM Presbyterian at Franklin & Marshall, 1:00 PM Indiana at Princeton, 1:00 PM Bellarmine at Queens, 1:00 PM *Clarion at Drexel, 2:00 PM Lehigh at Penn State, 2:00 PM Oklahoma at West Virginia, 2:00 PM Bucknell at Wisconsin, 2:00 PM Bloomsburg at Franklin & Marshall, 2:30 PM Michigan State vs. Presbyterian at Franklin & Marshall, 2:30 PM St. Andrews at Queens, 3:00 PM Illinois at Pittsburgh, 6:00 PM

Gotcha.

I get that, Gimp, but we're discussing rules suggestions here, and the wording and parameters to make them work. This is why Secretary-Rules Editors exist at the college level, after all.

Hadn't thought of what you suggested, but allowing "defer" actually might be a good idea to combat this sort of zugzwang (yes, that's a word...I didn't just make it up) scenario. As far as the back-to-back dual issue, my suggestion would be to waive the rest rule in that specific instance...although doesn't the rest rule specifically apply to tournaments and not duals as written? I'd have no issue with the rest rule being waived in this specific instance, as after the second match is over, you know the wrestler is getting a fairly long (at least the length of the dual) rest anyway.

Here's my thinking (this may sound familiar to college fans, as it's the current rule): There's a coin toss, and the winner gets choice of either start weight or odd/even matches (lightest to heaviest). Loser gets choice of the other. Thinking is that in high school, choice of one won't be that substantial over the other. This differs from college, where I'd ideally like to get rid of an immediate coin toss, and have coaches "strike" weights alternately until two are left, and then flip from the two remaining weights. This is because the odd/even choice generally serves very little effect in college, and the start weight is a bit too overpowered. Interested in hearing your thoughts, Dave.

Scrubbed...

For those wondering, I’m actually heading up to Morgan State tonight for their dual with Marymount (a tradition I started with F***** State, be at every new D-1 program’s first home dual)…

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-Indicates event is eligible for a one-pound weight allowance. Monday, November 20: *Marymount at Morgan State, 6:00 PM *Pittsburgh at Maryland, 7:30 PM Tuesday, November 21: George Mason at American, 7:00 PM Sunday, November 26: Binghamton, Cornell, Lock Haven at Mat Town Open I, hosted by Lock Haven, 9:30 AM South Dakota State at Minnesota, 1:00 PM (12:00 PM) Iowa at Iowa State, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM)

Texas A&M-Commerce is REALLY stretching the definition of metroplex there…might as well include Baylor and Tarleton State if you want to include TAMU-Commerce.

Full list of D-1 schools in the metroplex (don't have the time to look through the whole thread): Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Texas-Arlington, North Texas

Because...puppy defense?

Yes.

It’s been about 15-20 a weekend (I don’t have the exact numbers in front of me) so far between D-1 opponents. It’ll become fewer as the season goes on due to dual meets becoming more prevalent than tournaments later in the season, though.

If "snitches get stitches", I'll need to spend the entire gross domestic product of a mid-sized country to turn my skin into a mess consisting of more stitch than epidermis. Basically, I've been sending listings of matches every Monday that need to be changed from MFF to MFFL to the NWCA, as one of the two major software systems (Arena) doesn't have the functionality to log the countable medical forfeit, and I've seen the MFFL in a bracket on Track exactly once. In short, send all hate mail to me.

There are 75 teams, split into six regions (numbered 1-6, pretty similarly to how NCAA Division II is structured, but with some differences in the locations of teams...for example, Bluefield State is in Region 2 for women's, but Region 3 for D-2 men's). I believe, but am not sure, each team can enter 15 wrestlers into the regional tournament, and the top four from each region per weight qualifies for nationals.

UTEP is actually only a six-hour drive from Arizona State, believe it or not. (Heck, UTEP is closer to Arizona State than Tarleton State)