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So therefore it is proper to assume that every mentally ill person that gets police attention is usually killed by police. Perhaps you should define what you mean by "usually". The purpose of my question to you about unarmed black men is most people who don't know say 10000 are killed each year. No, as you noted from 2015 to 2021 there were 135. So that is 22.5 people killed per year. Yet you will still get the 10000 number from a number of people. This is analogous to your assertion that most police encounters with a mentally ill person ends up with the police killing them. Hyperbole at the highest level. mspart

You were the first to make the claim that when a cop gets involved with a mentally ill person, the mentally ill person usually gets killed by police. You are the one that needs to provide source or data for your claim. You have not, and by moving the goal posts you are admitting that your statement is not true. You are admitting you over stated the case. How many unarmed black men are killed by police every year? Please answer this question. mspart

I voted for the bill before I voted against the bill. Sound familiar? mspart

So your statement is unsubstantiated. That's all anyone on here was saying. mspart

OK, but that was not the question. How many mentally ill people are handled by police and are not shot. Your assertion was that a person with mental illness usually gets shot by police. Rather than show this irrelevant statistic, prove your assertion. Assertion: when police get involved in mental issues the person suffering from the mental illness usually gets killed by the police. Go! mspart

Nope. Nope. You can't use anecdotes to prove a point. Even though it proves it. Also you must be an authority with a PhD that knows what he/she is talking about even though most don't and you had one at the University Riley Gaines spoke at that said you can't tell gender by a dead persons bones. Everyone laughed at him because he was demonstrably wrong, but an expert and PhD. So anecdotes work I guess. Actual experiences work also.

Spot on. Our next President ladies and gentlemen if something happens to Biden. Please no. Please no. mspart

Facts and data!! Just the Facts ma'am. Swear the tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The truth will set you free. mspart

Someone should really come up with a pro con page for both. Just calling them dumb and evil misses the mark every time. We had 4 years of one and 3 years of the other. We should be able to objectively judge between the two based on their policy results. mspart

A little hyperbole here? She was convicted of providing a gun to her son, not with planning a school shooting. Then the case would have been a lot different. It was about a parent providing a minor child a gun. So she was not actively planning the school shooting. But your last two sentences here are good. I think you mean it differently that I would, but a recognition of police, city, county, state and federal officials ignoring laws seems to be a thing these days. What do we do from here? We stop voting in the people that ignore the laws and vote in people who will enforce the laws. City councils, Mayors, DAs, legislators, governors, State Attorneys General etc. That where we go from here. mspart

Already punished bad. Each transgender shooter had documented mental issues. That is the point here. This person was disturbed. If a pattern is not easily seen, then the pattern is not wanted to be seen. To WR, is reporting that the person is transgender not relevant with regard to the persons mental state? Not the first website: https://houstonlanding.org/lakewood-church-shooter-genesse-moreno-houston-police-joel-osteen/ In response to social media comments identifying Moreno as transgender, Hassig said she used “multiple aliases,” including a male name, but Moreno “has been identified this entire time as female.” "She utilized both male and female names, but through all of our investigation through this point, talking with individuals, interview, documents, Houston Police Department reports, she has been identified this entire time as female. She, her," he said. How many people use both male and female names for themselves that are not transgender? https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/us/joel-osteen-lakewood-church-shooting-monday/index.html Information from Moreno’s social media accounts and local authorities paints a portrait of a single mother with a history of mental health challenges going through the ups and downs of trying to turn her life around and launch a business. During a Monday news conference, Houston Homicide Commander Christopher Hassig said the shooter used multiple aliases, including both male and female names. Moreno was put under an order for emotional detention in 2016 and she has a mental health history documented by Houston police, Hassig said. Records from the Texas Department of Public Safety show Moreno had a string of arrests for minor offenses over the last two decades, including possession of marijuana, an assault, illegal possession of a weapon, resisting arrest and a forgery charge. But in her 30s, she described herself on social media as the founder of a real-estate and financial services firm. By her own account on social media pages, she is involved in sales of everything from new condos to shopping malls. She is said to have purchased the gun legally. This person, with this many issues and arrests, bought a gun legally. Again that tells us something some on here do not want to hear. mspart

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099 How much aid goes to Gaza? Lots, billions of dollars. Can you see it anywhere helping the civilians? Not really, everyone lives in poverty. Where does the money go? War prep, munitions, tunnels, lining Hamas leaders pockets, etc. Why no outcry about the money given to Gaza that is misappropriated? If one is to complain about the funding of Israel, then one should be intellectually honest enough to complain about the near 100% misuse of the funds Hamas receives. mspart

Quit treading on me. mspart

Another transgender shooting people up. Fortunately, there were off duty cops that took her out before more people were killed. Good thing off duty cops go to church. https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/02/12/police-identify-woman-shot-joel-osteens-lakewood-church-fail-explain-potential-transgender-identity/ In a news conference Monday, police cited “discrepancies” that may suggest a transgender identity, yet authorities insisted that the shooter was female, to their knowledge. “Our shooter is identified by driver’s license as Genesse Moreno, 36 years old, Hispanic female,” Christopher Hassig, commander of the Houston Police Department’s homicide unit, said at the news conference. Her full name is Genesse Ivonne Moreno, according to police. “We do have reports she used multiple aliases, including Jeffrey Escalante,” Hassig added. “She has utilized both male and female names, but through all of our investigation to this point, talking with individuals, interviews, documents, Houston Police Department reports she has been identified this entire time as female, she/her.” Police also said that they had discovered “antisemitic” writings in a search of items belonging to the shooter. So an antisemitic, pro palestine, El Salvadoran, transgender person with mental issues shot up the church. Just another transgender shooter with mental issues shooting up places. mspart

Don't tread on me. mspart

Price index was high today, stocks are way down. Cognitive dissonance. Biden or his handlers obviously cannot understand simple economic principles that a 6th grader can understand. mspart

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Please please please - Not Kamala - please please please. mspart

The dims don't play games, they are straight shooters. mspart

Nor should anyone!! I think the circus was funny. Maybe my question was not correct. Air play was not the real question, because each shot of her was 2 seconds or less. But how many times did they focus on her as opposed to others? I think that was what I was getting at. mspart

Good guess - Kathleen Turner. mspart

Love them to death!! mspart

It is so refreshing when we can work out our differences in a civilized manner eh? mspart

Chuck's are the best. mspart

What do you know about donuts!! mspart