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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/10/democratic-party-crisis-mode-00188547 More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken Democrats are having a full-blown identity crisis. Days after Kamala Harris’ defeat, the extent of their party’s failure is becoming increasingly clear. It’s bad enough that Democrats are still losing working-class whites, as they have in recent elections. Now, exit polls show blue-collar Latinos and some Black men, long a core part of the Democratic base, are abandoning the party, too, fueling electoral shellackings. Republicans flipped the Senate and are padding their majority. Democrats’ path to a majority in the House is narrowing. And Donald Trump won in what could only be described as a landslide in the modern era. “The Democratic Party needs to be rebuilt,” said Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We have become a party of elites, whether we abandoned working-class people, whether they abandoned us, whether it’s some combination of all of the above.” Even Jayapal "cannot" determine if they abandoned working class or the working class abandoned them. It is a chicken and egg question. If the Ds had not abandoned the working class, the working class would not have abandoned them. It is obvious their policies were not based in reality or based int he real concerns of the average voter. They need to do some soul searching to stop this. But will they or will they hide their head in the sand and continue to not prosecute the bad guys, continue to ignore that shoplifting is now so rampant stores are closing, and to continue to ignore scientific reality by saying a girl is a boy and a boy is a girl. I read somewhere that Ds cannot even identify malfeasance and mal actors anymore. That is apparent. They are not in reality. They are in la la land . The sooner they realize this and correct it, the sooner their fortunes will change. mspart

Yes, they have been coming for a long time as I have noted regarding the plasterers. But never at the level that we have now experienced. You are here to tell me that all of these 11 million illegals are agricultural workers? Naiveté at its best and brightest. mspart

I think the point is that the hybrid is a better option than the full EV. You can go further than with a full EV if you are on a long trip, and it sips the gas with way better gas mileage. Until we get to a point where we have an electric grid that can handle the demands of AI, EVs and regular use, having an EV does not make sense. AI is here and will grow. That will stretch the capabilities of the current grid to its capacity.

Ouch that is right! But that was a friendly and the women weren't serious in this game at all. They were more inspired by helping the self confidence of these younger players, than in taking it to these boys. mspart

https://www.chronline.com/stories/controversy-follows-as-first-washington-transgender-athlete-wins-a-state-high-school-track,341333 Verónica Garcia did not hear the boos when the race started last weekend. When she took the lead in the State 2A girls 400-meter run at the track and field championships in Tacoma, they grew in volume and became unmistakable as she reached the finish line to become the first transgender high school athlete to place first in state. I'd say he took over that girls event. mspart

You might ask those on the Penn women's swim team. You might ask those that got beat by a man. You might ask Riley Gaines. A man won the womens 500 yard freestyle swim event. That would be taking over that event. He took third in another race and tied with Gaines and got the medal instead of Gaines. So why couldn't they give a second 3rd place medal? They didn't. For whatever reason. They gave it to the man who tied for 3rd in a women's swim event with Gaines. mspart

This is a left leaning polling site trying to make sense of the election results for the Ds. They are looking at everything and this is one of the things that weighed on most of swing voters minds. 80% of them had this as a concern. You can dismiss it if you wish as can the Ds. But if the Ds ignore this finding, and continue has they have in all things, not just this, they will lose elections. The electorate seem to have turned on their more radical agenda items. Transagenda is one of those things. Blueprint is trying to identify those things in order to get Ds some wins. Shooting the messenger is not a recipe to success. mspart

It's not like picks of any President elect have not had any issues. mspart

Yes, I think this is a great move for DeSanto. He will not be our rep in free I don't think. He is pretty good and this might be a great way to get on a World Team. I think he can do it with the right amount of work and dedication. mspart

Mars makes all kinds of candy. If I was him I'd buy Mars, no doubt. mspart

Yeah, and that is why NYC and Chicago and Denver along with others budget money for the aliens upkeep so they can go out to the farms and haul food and then come back to the big city and enjoy their comfy digs. Who's naive in this picture? By the way, the stucco I can vouch for. When I worked plastering in Phoenix back in the day, the finishers were all Mexican and they were truly artisans. When immigration came, the place was vacated very quickly. No more work for that day. We worked in Phoenix near Bell Road and then we got another job doing the same thing but in Gilbert. We lived in Chandler so thought that was a better deal. Paid more too. mspart

Toyota put their eggs in the hybrid market and I think that is the better way to go. The could see that the EV market was not there. mspart

He did not say they were all drug runners bringing crime and all are rapists. But we have enough evidence that there are some. Not sure what you are arguing about. Why should we allow these people into our country? mspart

That is an interesting proposition. No I would not support it unless she was tyrannical and all other ways proved futile. And I would not select Trump to take her place. This would presumably take place in 2 years from now to 4 years from now to give her time to go full T Rex. By that time Trump would be out of the picture and there would be an opposition leader that would be a better person to fill the spot until an election could take place. She would have to subvert all the checks and balances of the Constitution to get to that point and be an autocrat beholden to no one. It is a scarier scenario that a casual thought question. mspart

Is it possible to put a person in a hold like that without choking of air or blood? Of course, it is a subdue-ing hold that can also make it so he cannot fight and get away. He can continually struggle which is what he did. That is apparent because it took others to help subdue him. A review of the toxicology and further autopsy showed that he was not deprived of blood or breath. If true, did Penny koll him? I think the situation of him threatening harm to others is sufficient to subdue him. Better than after he assaults and possibly seriously injures someone. I have no problem with what Penny did'.

1. Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate Joe and Hunter for stuff related to Burisma. 2. Trump was impeached for doing this. 3. Joe pardoned Hunter who was on the board of directors of Burisma. 4. The date of the pardon goes back to before Hunter was associated with Burisma. 5. Trump was impeached for trying to get Ukraine to investigate Joe and Hunters' relationship with Burisma. Also interesting at roughly the same time the laptop swirled around and it was called Russian disinformation. Apparently it was not, and is not able to be used to prosecute Hunter, although it could still be used against others. It appears Trump was on to something that Biden and the swamp didn't want out. Now we all know and most shrug at the corruption of the Bidens. mspart

You are not explaining what the phone call was about. Please explain that. I believe you will see that it ties it all together. mspart

So Trip, would the situation be any different if Neely knifed a woman (or otherwise assaulted a woman or child or man) and Penny put in in the same hold and Neely died? I see this and the actual situation as the same as people on the train were fearing being hurt because of Neely's behavior and threats. ms

There are a few who do not. RV is one of them. What does it matter now? Just let them run off with their ill gotten gains and leave them alone. mspart

While typing the message, the site stops for 10 seconds, then it is good for 10 seconds so that I cannot see what I am typing. It is very frustrating. mspart

Riley Gaines seems to be concerned. mspart

Trump was impeached for a phone call to Ukraine that Biden just pardoned his son for. Trump was right apparently but he was impeached for it. Weird DC political stuff going on. mspart

https://blueprint2024.com/polling/post-mortem-2-nov/ In the final days of the 2024 presidential election, one in four swing voters were still making up their minds. When they finally chose, they broke decisively for Donald Trump—delivering a deeply sobering message about Democratic Party misalignment on the high-salience issues of immigration and the economy and laying bare a Democratic brand problem. These voters absorbed right-wing attacks against the Democratic Party and delivered a verdict driven by kitchen-table economics and immigration concerns while rejecting what they perceived as Democratic cultural priorities. As our research has shown, these decisive swing voters ranked the Democratic Party’s perceived focus on cultural issues over middle-class concerns as their top criticism (+28)—even above inflation (+24) and immigration (+23). Vice President Harris couldn’t escape what voters think the Democratic Party represents—believing that the party holds extreme positions on the broad swath of issues and would enforce them through policy. Over 80% of these decisive swing voters believed Harris held positions she did not campaign on in 2024, including supporting taxpayer funding for transgender surgeries for undocumented immigrants (83%), mandatory electric vehicles by 2035 (82%), decriminalizing border crossings (77%), and defunding the police (72%). Perhaps most painfully, only 22% of swing voters who chose Trump believed Harris prioritizes “Americans like me” versus party activists—a stark contrast with the 80% who said Trump prioritizes “Americans like me” over party activists. Furthermore, 75% of swing voters who broke for Trump say it is either “extremely accurate” or “very accurate” that Democrats are “too focused on fighting Trump rather than bringing the country together.” Despite Harris’s disciplined campaign messaging and positioning in speeches and paid advertising, Republicans created and exploited disconnects between Harris’s stated views and the preferences of the electorate, building narratives around her that resonated organically with swing voters. The decision points of these voters—who remained open to persuasion until the very end—reveal not just a rejection of Harris but what they believed the Democratic Party stands for. Pretty interesting. I heard about this yesterday. For swing voters, the trans issue was a big reason they went for Trump. mspart

One would think, but that has proven not to be true in many cases. mspart

Kolat definitely. Dake multiple WC, yes him too. Terry? Spencer? I think too soon for him to be on the list. Terry didn't make the olympic team in 1996 in spectacular manner. He did make it in 2000, but had not done much wrestling since 1996. He did make the 1999 WT ( I was at the WTTs that year in Seattle), but I don't think he went to the WCs that year. I just looked it up and it appears he also made the 1997 world team but didn't compete at the WCs as well. I'm not sure why. But he was a two time WC, I think we would know more and could better judge this if he had gone to the 1997 and 1999 WCs. I think that keeps him off this list. Dake is a 4 time WC, but two of those not in Olympic weights. So again, not enough data probably. Lee Kemp - For sure. mspart