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Is 10-8 at the break a minor victory for OSU?

Teemer hanging on for dear life at the end. Felt like Fish didn't show the appropriate urgency.

Surprised Teemer gave up the escape so easily. Maybe the whizzer took a toll on the shoulder.

You don't need shoulder flexibilty to blast a double.

Steveson would have willed the ref to grant the escape.

Why?

Time to cut and go for tech

Impressive by Ayala. Those two rides really took a lot out of Sakamoto, but even before that Ayala always was in control.

Ayala is looking reeeeal good.

Great scramble by Ayala

Yes, please

He never gave the escape.

Clear fleeing the mat on Cruz as he crawls double time off the mat.

It used to be sportsmanship/citizenship. Now it is just sportsmanship.

Amen, there are no pinfalls in the pool

Isn't that for you, the voter, to decide?

You are the man, Mike. Thank you.

As for wrestlers winning the award without being undefeated, Brent Metcalf did that in 2008.

The NCAA article is the "loose reporting". WIN is the official source. The award is from WIN magazine, not the NCAA. The award was created by Mike Chapman, the founder of WIN. It even says as much in the first paragraph of your NCAA article. https://www.mike-chapman.com/other-projects/win-magazine Mike is a titan of wrestling reporting who has earned his way into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame with his years of service to, and support of wrestling. https://nwhof.org/hall_of_fame/bio/1785 We would all do well to educate ourselves on Mike's impressive career.

You just like to make stuff up, don't you?

For me 5 titles would be the answer to a trivia question rather than something that separates Starocci from the other four-timers. It is undeniably difficult to win a fifth title (or any title), but it was impossible for the other four-timers because it was not possible. That Starocci is given an opportunity that they were not, does not elevate him above them. Similarly, three-timers in the no-freshman era are not definitionally below four-timers. We can argue whether any of them would have won as freshman, but they were never given the opportunity. A similar situation already exists. "Who is the only six time NCAA wrestling champion?" is a fun trivia question.

The NCAA article is an old article that they lightly update each year. Unfortunately they do not update it to correct the criteria. As for the year the criteria was changed, I was off by a year. It was 2022 when the criteria became dominance/bonus-point percentage. 2022 was also the year Steveson won with 1 pinfall, the lowest total of the eight finalists. Here is the 2020 WIN article with the old criteria: 2020 Here is the 2021 WIN article with the criteria only referenced, but not detailed: 2021 Here is the 2022 WIN article with the new criteria: 2022

It has been gone for a while. See 2021 Steveson 1 pinfall.

Pinfalls were removed as a criteria in 2021 and replaced with dominance/bonus-point percentage. 2021 is also the year Steveson won with one single, solitary, lonely pinfall.

You should review my posts on 100%ers. But I can understand why people might think the logic would not apply in the other direction. Arguably the freshman year title is the hardest to attain. I am not convinced of that while I am also not convinced it is wrong.