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158 and counting with the Davis pinfall

Penn State has 155 points. A third or fifth place win is worth 1 more placement point. A first place win is worth 4 more placement points. PSU's 9 remaining wrestlers can earn 18 more placement points, putting their total at 173. They can afford to miss out on a few third place finishes as long as they get enough bonus points to cover the difference. It will be much harder to do if they lose a final, but not impossible. Technically they can lose all three finals, as long as they pinfall everyone else, and still get the record. Sucks to be them.

A little known part of the rule is that the count stops when both wrestlers are on their feet, or if the defensive wrestler is on their feet while the offensive wrestler is still on the mat. The referee shall stop the count when the offensive wrestler improves their position, moves their hold back up above the buttocks of the defensive wrestler, releases the hold or when both wrestlers rise to the standing position. When dropped to a lower leg, there is no mandatory count when both the offensive and defensive wrestlers are in the rearstanding position. The mandatory count also stops if the defensive wrestler is on their feet while the offensive wrestler is still on the mat. (Rules 5.7.12b)

Ferrari and Starocci started at the same time. Ferrari still has two years left.

I have gone back and forth on the push out. I thought I wanted it, now I think I don't. But I definitely 1000% want the point for the lost challenge.

And voting yes on the point for a lost challenge

Great story by Hidlay about Trephan and Trumble being roommates earlier this year and now meeting at NCAAs with a trip to 3/4 on the line

Nice win by Kennedy. How does 174 resolve at Iowa next year? With Kennedy 3/4 and Arnold undersized at 184, and both guys bleeding Black and Gold.

It is almost a PSU Cornell dual right now

Happy for Barraclough even with the lose. Maybe Facundo can AA next year too.

"No, I don't know the story." Hidlay made Sparks so happy just then.

call me confused. Bartlett is up one without riding time and goes optional to give up the point and the tie?

SVN pinfells Stiles

Ventresca pays for not shooting for 6:50

Ventresca (Old Man River) vs Lilledahl (he's just a kid)

Northern Colorado?

The log jam is real. And it will be nice to see it begin to clear out. As a PSU fan, I am pulling for Starocci to win tonight. But as a lover of the data/history, it would not bother me too much if he lost. As I have said, other than as the answer to a trivia question, I do not find 5 titles that interesting. I also hate the way the Oly redshirt is administered. So Ferrari's lose yesterday making it impossible for him to get 4 titles is fine by me. And frankly, Steveson's highly likely third title and Hodge means little given his use of that loophole. I am sure there are others, but those are the three biggest possible achievements I can think of this year that are about excellence meeting opportunity that never existed before.

PSU has only missed on 4 so far. Two have beaten. And 4 have a chance to match their seed today. Though I suspect Kerkvliet will forfeit and miss.

We know our top two finishers, we just don't know the order yet. Just like in real wrestling, it all comes down to Saturday at NCAA's The final pits @BigRedWrestler308 against @CHROMEBIRD The result hinges on the relative performances of Jacob Van Dee and Trevor Chumbley, a couple of Big Ten foes who will fight each other without even knowing it (or wrestling each other). Van Dee wrestles for 7th today, but Chumbley can finish as high as third. For BigRed to hang on he needs a Chumbley slide to fifth or sixth.

You are misunderstanding the bump. Wrestlers seeded to AA often do not. And that applies to most teams. So on average, for the top teams, they wrestle below seed. PSU tends to wrestle approximately to seed. That is the bump. And right now they are wrestling almost to seed. And if everything goes right tomorrow (it won't) they will finish above seed. The time to decide how PSU did is when we know how they did. The only thing we know so far is that they are only the second team in history with 10 AAs. They had a 19% chance of 10 AAs going in (without the bump), and they did the deed. People are acting like 10 AAs is not a monumental achievement even though it has happened only twice in almost 100 years of wrestling. As for vs. seed. Again, no school has ever had higher seeds or more wrestlers. But on two occassions where PSU qualified 9 they missed seed 4 times (2016, 2019). In 2016 the average seed was 8.9. In 2019 it was 3.8. This year is by far the hardest comp. To not acknowledge that is silly.

That story is not yet written. Coming in PSU had what is believed to be the highest average seed ever (2.6 average). If they finish undefeated tomorrow their average finish will actually be better than their seed (2.4). And if they lose every match tomorrow their average finish will be 4.8. That 4.8 is better than when they won in every year, but last year. And that is in spite of the fact they have 10 wrestlers this year.

They certainly can seal it earlier. Their max points are 213, and if they wrestle to seed they will get 171.5.

I got a kick out of these quotes. Trump: “We want to get criminals out of our country, number one, and I don’t know when it was signed, because I didn’t sign it,” Trump said. “Other people handled it, but (Secretary of State) Marco Rubio has done a great job and he wanted them out and we go along with that. We want to get criminals out of our country.” It was then pointed out that the proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act appears in the Federal Register with Trump’s signature at the bottom. So a White House Spokesman claimed: “President Trump was obviously referring to the original Alien Enemies Act that was signed back in 1798,” a White House statement said. “The recent Executive Order was personally signed by President Trump invoking the Alien Enemies Act that designated Tren de Aragua as a Foreign Terrorist Organization in order to apprehend and deport these heinous criminals. Liars are gonna lie.

Nowhere have I not given credit to Nebraska, Oklahoma State, or Iowa. You are barking up the wrong tree.

You are easily confused. You got lost from the beginning of your sentence to the end. They both "have a shot at three???"