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My focus is on lethality over commonality.

It was a mistake to say military grade because then the strategy becomes to pick apart and parse the definition rather than discuss the issue (see the reams of posts about the definition of AR). So let us call them US Mass Shooter Grade as the list I shared were the guns used in some of the top 12 most deadly mass shootings in the US. It seems like the most basic of common sense to review the list of preferred weapons of mass shooters in this country and then eliminate them. Yes, a mentally ill person will find another way to express their illness, but it will not be their preferred, which is presumably most efficient, way to do so. And I agree that the issue is often mental illness which needs to be addressed, but it is a fool who thinks the problem should not also be addressed at the gun level.

The claim was that there was a causation between COVID shots and cardiac events among athletes. The baseline for determining that would have to come from a pre-COVID time. Besides 8 years is nothing.

You have me confused with GWN. I do not hang any of my arguments on what AR stands for.

Yes. What if? What if it doubled? What if it halved? What if it was between 99% and 101% of past numbers? There are a lot of people on this board who like to talk about what if as though it were. Which is why I asked what the definition of alarming rate was. The words alarming rate are used intentionally to imply that there is a known number (rate) and it is different from what should be expected (alarming). I provided the baseline. Rather than extrapolate one famous athlete, who may or may not have had a booster recently, into "alarming rate" I prefer to examine phrases like that. I find that they are most often lazy.

There really is nothing to see right here. What is an alarming rate? What is your baseline? NCAA athletes having cardiac death is more common than most think. 1 in 50k athletes, 1 in 21k black athletes, and 1 in 5k basketball players suffer cardiac death during participation in athletics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4496313/

We don't do nuance and context here.

I know this to be an excellent idea from personal experience. For years I played racquetball against a D1 tennis player. He would destroy me, and quickly. His goal was to beat me 15-0. Once I scored a point he would lose interest in the game and I might score 5 or 7 more, but I only ever beat him twice. After one particularly brutal stretch I score a point and he turns to me and says, "Do you realize I just scored 25 points in a row?" I responded, "what are you talking about? The streak is one in a row to me." He was so pissed, he went on tilt and that was one of the two games I ever won. Celebrate early, celebrate often, you might not get a chance to celebrate at the end.

Amen. I know we won't change each other's minds. I am glad we can respectfully state our positions.

A perfect example of a false equivalency. These rifles are designed to efficiently and effectively deliver death. We agree on that. You focus on vermin. I focus on humans.

My point was that it is also good for mass shootings. It is the preferred weapon of the US mass shooter. My list was derived from the top 12 mass shootings in the United States. The .223 AR-15 that several here thought would be ineffective against deer and moose proved highly effective against humans in the Las Vegas shooting where 12 of the rifles were found to have fired 1,049 of tje 1,058 rounds fired that day, contributing to 60 deaths.

What are you talking about? You are keeping up perfectly.

As near as I can tell. I did not watch.

Yawn. Sticking with minor league fake wrestling.

I told you I know nothing. Apparently he is sticking with the status quo. Minor league fake wrestling.

It is down to $50m per goal in just 22 minutes.

The German turtle. I love it.

At 58,299 attendance was the third highest in the 12 year period ended in 1994, a period that included 2 tournaments at Iowa State and three at Oklahoma/Oklahoma State. During that time only Iowa hosted tournaments drew more. Not too shabby.

I feel like it is unlikely he will announce status quo.

It has to be beach wrestling, no? With chaise lounge drink service.

Can I have an Amen?

From The Athletic (everyone should subscribe, in spite of what NJDan said, they are excellent, but you can also tell that by NJDan thinking they were not): U.S. Senators Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) introduced on Tuesday a long-awaited bipartisan bill regarding name, image, and likeness (NIL) rights and other college sports issues. Called the “Protecting Athletes, Schools and Sports Act,” the legislation includes the creation of a national public registry to record and track NIL deals, enhanced healthcare coverage for both current and former college athletes and strict rules regarding athletes’ usage of the transfer portal. Here’s what you need to know: The bill would preempt state NIL laws and require a uniform NIL contract for all parties entering into a contract. It would also allow the NCAA to prohibit certain types of deals, such as those with gambling companies or alcohol brands. The NCAA would be in charge of enforcing and investigating such rules, but it would have the support of the Federal Trade Commission, which would handle the registration of agents and collectives as well as the national public NIL deal registry. Collectives and boosters would be required to be formally affiliated with specific schools. The act would guarantee health insurance for sports-related injuries for uninsured student athletes for eight years following graduation from a four-year institution. That responsibility would either fall upon the school at which the athlete played and/or a newly formed trust fund taken from one percent of annual proceeds from revenue-generating collegiate tournaments, including the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the College Football Playoff. Athletes would only be able to transfer and play right away after completing their first three years of academic eligibility. Exceptions to this would include a death in the player’s family or a head coach or position coach leaving the school. The implications (and criticisms) of a public NIL registry The act would establish “a publicly accessible internet website on which the Federal Trade Commission shall publish and frequently update anonymized and aggregated name, image or likeness data.” While a great many college administrators have called for transparency around NIL deals themselves, not every proposed bill has included a public registry. This information would be useful in determining what is or isn’t true market value. Critics have argued that it is not necessary because such a database doesn’t exist in other industries, nor does it exist for professional athletes who sign endorsement deals. The other new bipartisan bill coming from the Senate Last week, Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) circulated a discussion draft of their bipartisan bill, which proposes the formation of the College Athletics Corporation (CAC), a central oversight entity that would set, administer, and enforce rules and standards to protect athletes who enter into endorsement contracts. It would require that athletes disclose deals to a designated athletic department official at their school but not publicly. The bill also included healthcare provisions for current and former players, paid for by a medical trust fund, and the ability for an athlete to transfer one time and play immediately as long as the transfer occurred out of season and not within 60 days of the start of the sport’s season. The bill would also allow athletes who go undrafted in a professional sports draft the ability to return to school. How they compare Neither bill explicitly states that athletes are categorically not employees. But other than that, these bills both provide the NCAA with a lot of what it’s been asking for: the preemption of state NIL laws, requiring that NIL deals be disclosed and tracked and assistance with enforcement. The biggest differences are in how each treats athletes’ ability to transfer and ease in which they can do so. The Manchin-Tuberville bill severely restricts athlete mobility, presumably to avoid recruiting inducements in the form of NIL deals. But it’s an odd inclusion during an era that has seen a significant loosening of athlete restrictions in this area, among others. The bills also differ in disclosure — the Manchin-Tuberville bill proposes a national public registry with athletes granted anonymity, while the Booker-Moran-Blumenthal bill would keep contract information private and protected from Freedom of Information Act requests. The bills also differ slightly in the breadth of medical coverage provided and some of the particulars surrounding how it would be funded. It’s not clear exactly how the FTC or the newly formed CAC would actually work with or in lieu of the NCAA in terms of regulation and punishment for violations. (Photo: Tom Williams / CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

The U.S. Army Special Operations History disagrees with you: "The AR-15 rifle, later adopted in modified form as the M-16, fully replaced the M-14 by 1969." https://arsof-history.org/articles/19_aug_form_follows_function_page_1.html

Ahhh, semantics. The last refuge. And it was 100% his policy.

Partial list: .223-caliber AR-15-type semi-automatic rifle .308-caliber AR-10-type rifle Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle ArmaLite AR-15 rifle SIG Sauer MCX[9] semi-automatic rifle Ruger AR-556 semi-automatic rifle WASR-10 rifle 9mm Uzi carbine