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I love option 2

That was DJT's first proposal above.

I think this is the study you are referring to (if not, let me know): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2781601 It shows the expected rate of male military incidence as 0 to 8, with the observed rate at 19, fitting your 250%. The rate among female military members was zero, which would be lower than expected.

I see this as a very cynical bill. They know it has absolutely no chance of going anywhere, but they can tout that they tried.

I most certainly did not say that. I challenged someone who made the claim that cardiac arrest had both increased at an alarming rate, and implied it was due to a COVID booster shot, in the laziest way possible to not be so lazy.

My focus is on lethality over commonality.

It was a mistake to say military grade because then the strategy becomes to pick apart and parse the definition rather than discuss the issue (see the reams of posts about the definition of AR). So let us call them US Mass Shooter Grade as the list I shared were the guns used in some of the top 12 most deadly mass shootings in the US. It seems like the most basic of common sense to review the list of preferred weapons of mass shooters in this country and then eliminate them. Yes, a mentally ill person will find another way to express their illness, but it will not be their preferred, which is presumably most efficient, way to do so. And I agree that the issue is often mental illness which needs to be addressed, but it is a fool who thinks the problem should not also be addressed at the gun level.

The claim was that there was a causation between COVID shots and cardiac events among athletes. The baseline for determining that would have to come from a pre-COVID time. Besides 8 years is nothing.

You have me confused with GWN. I do not hang any of my arguments on what AR stands for.

Yes. What if? What if it doubled? What if it halved? What if it was between 99% and 101% of past numbers? There are a lot of people on this board who like to talk about what if as though it were. Which is why I asked what the definition of alarming rate was. The words alarming rate are used intentionally to imply that there is a known number (rate) and it is different from what should be expected (alarming). I provided the baseline. Rather than extrapolate one famous athlete, who may or may not have had a booster recently, into "alarming rate" I prefer to examine phrases like that. I find that they are most often lazy.

There really is nothing to see right here. What is an alarming rate? What is your baseline? NCAA athletes having cardiac death is more common than most think. 1 in 50k athletes, 1 in 21k black athletes, and 1 in 5k basketball players suffer cardiac death during participation in athletics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4496313/

We don't do nuance and context here.

I know this to be an excellent idea from personal experience. For years I played racquetball against a D1 tennis player. He would destroy me, and quickly. His goal was to beat me 15-0. Once I scored a point he would lose interest in the game and I might score 5 or 7 more, but I only ever beat him twice. After one particularly brutal stretch I score a point and he turns to me and says, "Do you realize I just scored 25 points in a row?" I responded, "what are you talking about? The streak is one in a row to me." He was so pissed, he went on tilt and that was one of the two games I ever won. Celebrate early, celebrate often, you might not get a chance to celebrate at the end.

Amen. I know we won't change each other's minds. I am glad we can respectfully state our positions.

A perfect example of a false equivalency. These rifles are designed to efficiently and effectively deliver death. We agree on that. You focus on vermin. I focus on humans.

My point was that it is also good for mass shootings. It is the preferred weapon of the US mass shooter. My list was derived from the top 12 mass shootings in the United States. The .223 AR-15 that several here thought would be ineffective against deer and moose proved highly effective against humans in the Las Vegas shooting where 12 of the rifles were found to have fired 1,049 of tje 1,058 rounds fired that day, contributing to 60 deaths.

What are you talking about? You are keeping up perfectly.

As near as I can tell. I did not watch.

Yawn. Sticking with minor league fake wrestling.

I told you I know nothing. Apparently he is sticking with the status quo. Minor league fake wrestling.

It is down to $50m per goal in just 22 minutes.

The German turtle. I love it.

At 58,299 attendance was the third highest in the 12 year period ended in 1994, a period that included 2 tournaments at Iowa State and three at Oklahoma/Oklahoma State. During that time only Iowa hosted tournaments drew more. Not too shabby.

I feel like it is unlikely he will announce status quo.