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Watching guys panic when Siebrecht goes upperbody has been a small joy this year.

Big Tone, Spencer, Woods, Siebrecht, and Max for me. Max....I love him, man, but he can be very frustrating.

If Siebrecht doesn't get countered to his back, I really think he can win this match.

I want it for him. He tries so damned hard.

Dude that trainers bald spot/ hair combo is epic.

Who will hurt our feelings in the Blood Round this year?

He's also in the Big 10 now. I'm talking more stylistically. I'm not going to pretend I watched all of his matches elsewhere, so I'm not really insinuating, I'm asking for people who may know better than me.

Does Woods seem more offensive as an Iowa wrestler? Obviously I'm biased, but he seemed more defensive at Stanford.

Freestyle is WAY easier on cardio.

Peyton Robb looks like a substitute middle school math teacher

Forfeits are lame as hell in a collegiate dual meet.

There are definitely some...head scratchers in here.

Yes, if we switched weight classes collegiatebfans would stop watching.

That's literally the situation we're already in, under the current weight classes.

Sure. I don't see the problem, since that happens at the next level anyway. It doesn't matter, particularly, what the weights are in collegiate style, they've changed before. We want to be successful in the International styles, and matching the weight classes seems like an easy step with no downside.

Is there any good reason why college weights don't directly match freestyle weights to ease the transition?

It appears to, as usual with these circumstances, many factors: Injury + physical style + some slight overinflation of early results (notably the previously mentioned close loss to Real Woods in Swiderski's highest profile match) + typical freshman growing pains.

Warner is an incredibly frustrating watch, but this type of result is not super out-of-line with previous results. He's got so much ability, but obviously struggles with the mental game.

The poster posting about this, @Topshotman1, is a good dude. I bought tickets from him the last two years, good prices, no scamming. I don't tend to vouch for people, lol.

EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!!!

Like I said, no point to this thread other than I was watching videos.

And people are right! So many of their top wrestlers, unlike in years past, are wrestling close matches constantly, and yet they (almost) always win them, and none of their top guys ever seem to lose. Very frustrating as a fan of an opposing team, but impressive nonetheless. We've all seen their stats in the NCAA semis and such. I'm not even sure what the point of this thread is, I was just watching some videos during my lunch break and thinking about how, normally, if guy's wrestle always close matches, we think of it as living dangerously, especially at the NCAA tournament, but none of us think that about the Penn State guys in that way BECAUSE THEY NEVER LOSE THOSE MATCHES. Even when they do lose a close match, like Brooks last year to Amine or this year to Coleman, we always expect them to win the next time they meet, and will always win at NCAAs. Sigh.

Is it biomechanically pre-disposed to cause injury? I don't think so, though admittedly I'm no expert. Some wrestling moves hurt. Obvously this is one one of them, and it certainly looks like it sucks to be in. My opinion is that this is a move that looks bad, but that doesn't mean it is bad. It's probably close to the line, but I think where we have drawn the line (between high school, where there are more inexperienced and/or less skilled kids, and college, where people either do know or should know what they're doing). It's made a little trickier because of the back bow being illegal and so close to the bow & arrow, but that's why we pay the referees the big bucks.

Askren says there won't be a decision until after the year, I think. Writing seems to be on the wall it will be Mizzou, but we'll see.