Penn State vs Field Dual Meet

[MMR52000]

Wild to think, but Penn State currently has 6 guys ranked #1 in the country.  Could they win a dual meet against an all-start team from all other teams?  Thinking potential hardest match-ups from the field:

 

125 - Lilledahl vs. -  I think he is favored against anyone, maybe Bouzakis?  Probably the best in the field and can possibly pin.  PSU 3-0

133 - Blaze vs. unsure  -  Byrd, Seidel, Jax, Davino...all seem very close to 50-50 matchups.  PSU 3-3

141 - Davis vs. Mendez  -  already know how this ends, TF.  PSU 3-8

149 - SVN vs, Joy - Can ride and turn which has been an issue for SVN in the past.  Still going SVN though.  PSU 6-8

157 - PJ vs. unsure  -  Canon, Meyer, Antrell, seems pretty close to 50-50 matchups on paper.  PSU 6-11

165 - MM vs. Lockett, Blaze  - MM, but by bonus?  PSU 9-11

174 - Haines vs. Ruiz  -  Haines likely by decision.  PSU 12-11

184 - Rocco vs. Sinclair?  Seems to be maybe the toughest matchup on paper.  Sinclair is so good on re-attacks, can start in tie breakers.  Likely close to 50-50 who wins here.  PSU 12-14

197 - Barr vs. Rocky  -  Barr is the pick, but can be bonus Rocky?  PSU 15-14

285 - Mirasola vs. Bastida or Trubmle  -  Mirasola has really been figuring out how to beat guys that are bigger than him.  Will be very interesting come NCAAs, but i think Basitda is too good on the feet and Trumble is a real issue on top.  PSU 15-17

On paper, its a super tight dual.  Even giving the field all 3 of the 50-50 matchups(in my mind), the difference is bonus from Mendez at 141.  I think its possible MM and Bar could both both bonus against anyone in the field, making this a potential 17-17 tie.....  

Anyone taking PSU vs the field?

[Pinnacle]

And PSU history shows they win a majority of the toss ups in March, so taking PSU isn't crazy. Maybe they could win.

[ionel]

19 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

And PSU history shows they win a majority of the toss ups in March, so taking PSU isn't crazy. Maybe they could win.

Pretty sure @Wrestleknownothing has a probabilty chart showing the odds of continuing to defy the odds.  Penn St's luck comes to a crashing halt this March.  

[Gene Mills Fan]

10 minutes ago, ionel said:

Pretty sure @Wrestleknownothing has a probabilty chart showing the odds of continuing to defy the odds.  Penn St's luck comes to a crashing halt this March.  

In the jungle, the mighty jungle
The lion sleeps tonight
In the jungle, the quiet jungle
The lion sleeps tonight (ho, ho)

Edited February 19 by Gene Mills Fan

[BarSeries]

we get it, PSU is good

[jajensen09]

2 hours ago, MMR52000 said:

Wild to think, but Penn State currently has 6 guys ranked #1 in the country.  Could they win a dual meet against an all-start team from all other teams?  Thinking potential hardest match-ups from the field:

 

125 - Lilledahl vs. -  I think he is favored against anyone, maybe Bouzakis?  Probably the best in the field and can possibly pin.  PSU 3-0

133 - Blaze vs. unsure  -  Byrd, Seidel, Jax, Davino...all seem very close to 50-50 matchups.  PSU 3-3

141 - Davis vs. Mendez  -  already know how this ends, TF.  PSU 3-8

149 - SVN vs, Joy - Can ride and turn which has been an issue for SVN in the past.  Still going SVN though.  PSU 6-8

157 - PJ vs. unsure  -  Canon, Meyer, Antrell, seems pretty close to 50-50 matchups on paper.  PSU 6-11

165 - MM vs. Lockett, Blaze  - MM, but by bonus?  PSU 9-11

174 - Haines vs. Ruiz  -  Haines likely by decision.  PSU 12-11

184 - Rocco vs. Sinclair?  Seems to be maybe the toughest matchup on paper.  Sinclair is so good on re-attacks, can start in tie breakers.  Likely close to 50-50 who wins here.  PSU 12-14

197 - Barr vs. Rocky  -  Barr is the pick, but can be bonus Rocky?  PSU 15-14

285 - Mirasola vs. Bastida or Trubmle  -  Mirasola has really been figuring out how to beat guys that are bigger than him.  Will be very interesting come NCAAs, but i think Basitda is too good on the feet and Trumble is a real issue on top.  PSU 15-17

On paper, its a super tight dual.  Even giving the field all 3 of the 50-50 matchups(in my mind), the difference is bonus from Mendez at 141.  I think its possible MM and Bar could both both bonus against anyone in the field, making this a potential 17-17 tie.....  

Anyone taking PSU vs the field?

2 guys you take vs the field. Mesenbrink and Barr.  So 2-8 vs the field

[MMR52000]

1 hour ago, jajensen09 said:

2 guys you take vs the field. Mesenbrink and Barr.  So 2-8 vs the field

Not intended to be a discussion on who your taking vs the field at NCAAs.  This is in a dual meet scenario.

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, MMR52000 said:

Not intended to be a discussion on who your taking vs the field at NCAAs.  This is in a dual meet scenario.

It's a jajensen post.  It's not meant to be taken seriously but appreciated for it's fun or humor.  

Edited February 19 by PortaJohn

[1032004]

I think we’ve had this thread before and it’s basically just asking how many champs will they have.  If it’s less than 5, then they probably lose unless they get multiple bonus points in the finals.

Following the tOSU dual, what might be more interesting would be the discussion of how many teams would it take to beat them.   If we use the results from the OP, at minimum you probably need

125 tOSU

133 tOSU (just to use an existing team)

141 tOSU

149 Cornell

157 Cornell (just to use an existing team)

165 OK State or Purdue

174 Cornell

184 Mizzou

197 ISU

285 ISU (just to use an existing team)

 

So at best, it would take 4 teams to beat them, if you don’t use one of the other top 165’s and try to stall against Mesenbrink.  5 if you want any sort of shot at 165.

 

[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

I think we’ve had this thread before and it’s basically just asking how many champs will they have.  If it’s less than 5, then they probably lose unless they get multiple bonus points in the finals.

Following the tOSU dual, what might be more interesting would be the discussion of how many teams would it take to beat them.   If we use the results from the OP, at minimum you probably need

125 tOSU

133 tOSU (just to use an existing team)

141 tOSU

149 Cornell

157 Cornell (just to use an existing team)

165 OK State or Purdue

174 Cornell

184 Mizzou

197 ISU

285 ISU (just to use an existing team)

 

So at best, it would take 4 teams to beat them, if you don’t use one of the other top 165’s and try to stall against Mesenbrink.  5 if you want any sort of shot at 165.

 

I'd be more inclined to take PSU against the field in a straight up dual vs taking them in a tournament setting where they have to run the gauntlet

[MPhillips]

36 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

It's a jajensen post.  It's not meant to be taken seriously but appreciated for it's fun or humor.  

[Doublehalf]

It is well within the world of possibility they have 8 champions this year. 
 

Do I think it will happen? No. But I'm sure at one time no one thought it was possible to have 5 champs so I always leave room for the possibility of a records ring being broken.

[CHROMEBIRD]

2 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

I'd be more inclined to take PSU against the field in a straight up dual vs taking them in a tournament setting where they have to run the gauntlet

For sure. 

Also there's a lot of talk about this being PSU's strongest team ever, and I admit they have a really strong lineup from top to bottom, but feel like there's a lot more uncertainty around their #1s.

Maybe I'm benefitting from hindsight, but back when PSU had a murderer's row with Zain, Nolf, Lee, Cenzo, Nickal, etc. there was little doubt that they'd all make the finals. With the current PSU #1s, idk if anyone's a lock. Maybe MM or Haines? 

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

For sure. 

Also there's a lot of talk about this being PSU's strongest team ever, and I admit they have a really strong lineup from top to bottom, but feel like there's a lot more uncertainty around their #1s.

Maybe I'm benefitting from hindsight, but back when PSU had a murderer's row with Zain, Nolf, Lee, Cenzo, Nickal, etc. there was little doubt that they'd all make the finals. With the current PSU #1s, idk if anyone's a lock. Maybe MM or Haines? 

To make the finals? Mesenbrink is for sure and he’s about as close as a lock to winning as you can get.   Haines, Barr & SVN are pretty safe bets for the finals too.

[Nak21]

The number of champs etc we’ll find out soon enough - this season has less than 30 days left.

I think depending on seeds at some weights, PSU has a bunch of “locks” likely in the finals - 125, 149, 165, 174, 197. And 133, 157, 184 are all in play. Winning, just getting there etc is a function of how good the PSU guy is at that weight and at some weights some seeding/luck help.
PSU vs the Field is coming soon. I think the extrapolation is gonna say take PSU…

The hypothetical dual vs the Field. You don’t have a lot of the Field to choose from at most weights. And a few it doesn’t matter who you pick they’re losing and likely with bonus. 
Someone already said it. PSU is good at wrestling.