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This quote from Vance really gave me vibes of those authoritarian countries we've wrestled against like Russia/Iran about their athletes not being allowed the freedom to speak their minds when competing on an international stage.

 

"When you’re representing the country, you’re representing Democrats and Republicans,” Vance continued. “You’re there to play a sport, and you’re there to represent your country, and hopefully win a medal. You’re not there to pop off about politics.”

 

Like deal with it... I'm sure if the athletes were saying how much they loved ICE he wouldn't have a problem with it... The level of sensitivity and outright disdain for people that don't agree with this administration is honestly getting to frightening territory. History has rarely if ever, looked back poorly on athletes standing up for peoples' civil rights years later. Not sure why this administration thinks that censorship is the right path to go down but it boggles the mind.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This quote from Vance really gave me vibes of those authoritarian countries we've wrestled against like Russia/Iran about their athletes not being allowed the freedom to speak their minds when competing on an international stage.

 

"When you’re representing the country, you’re representing Democrats and Republicans,” Vance continued. “You’re there to play a sport, and you’re there to represent your country, and hopefully win a medal. You’re not there to pop off about politics.”

 

Like deal with it... I'm sure if the athletes were saying how much they loved ICE he wouldn't have a problem with it... The level of sensitivity and outright disdain for people that don't agree with this administration is honestly getting to frightening territory. History has rarely if ever, looked back poorly on athletes standing up for peoples' civil rights years later. Not sure why this administration thinks that censorship is the right path to go down but it boggles the mind.

 

 

So, athletes can express their opinions,and AOC can express her opinions, and you can express your opinions- but the VP can't?  Is this because you disagree with him?

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12 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This quote from Vance really gave me vibes of those authoritarian countries we've wrestled against like Russia/Iran about their athletes not being allowed the freedom to speak their minds when competing on an international stage.

 

"When you’re representing the country, you’re representing Democrats and Republicans,” Vance continued. “You’re there to play a sport, and you’re there to represent your country, and hopefully win a medal. You’re not there to pop off about politics.”

 

Like deal with it... I'm sure if the athletes were saying how much they loved ICE he wouldn't have a problem with it... The level of sensitivity and outright disdain for people that don't agree with this administration is honestly getting to frightening territory. History has rarely if ever, looked back poorly on athletes standing up for peoples' civil rights years later. Not sure why this administration thinks that censorship is the right path to go down but it boggles the mind.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

So, athletes can express their opinions,and AOC can express her opinions, and you can express your opinions- but the VP can't?  Is this because you disagree with him?

Maybe your comprehension is lacking today but nowhere did I say he couldn't express his opinion...

However, his opinion sounds very much like those that have instituted and imposed state sponsored censorship to those that have any disagreement with their government. 
 

Since you love engaging in whataboutism like others here, I can't imagine the collective MAGA head explosion that would happen if Biden said that some rodeo cowboy that got bucked off his steer - is only allowed to get his head smashed in by the hooves of an animal at the rodeo and not allowed to express support for Trump after putting on a MAGA hat...

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44 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

So, athletes can express their opinions,and AOC can express her opinions, and you can express your opinions- but the VP can't?  Is this because you disagree with him?

This 💯 

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4 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Maybe your comprehension is lacking today but nowhere did I say he couldn't express his opinion...

However, his opinion sounds very much like those that have instituted and imposed state sponsored censorship to those that have any disagreement with their government. 
 

Since you love engaging in whataboutism like others here, I can't imagine the collective MAGA head explosion that would happen if Biden said that some rodeo cowboy that got bucked off his steer - is only allowed to get his head smashed in by the hooves of an animal at the rodeo and not allowed to express support for Trump after putting on a MAGA hat...

Sounds like…… to you so then it must be right huh?  F N hypocrisy at its finest. 

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Just to head off any confusion, perhaps on my part. The left handed graph is an example of how things grow when it is not longer dangerous to admit to be that thing. Be it left handed, gay, trans, socialist, or yahtzee. When your life or safety is no longer in danger. It becomes that much easier and more likely that you will come out publicly admit to belonging to a group or affiliation that was formerly dangerous to belong to. 

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What a scumbag. Wants liberal athletes to just up, basically. Don't speak out against the regime. 

I'm sure he has no problem whatsoever with winger athletes doing the same thing. 

Hypocrite piece of garbage. 

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3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Just to head off any confusion, perhaps on my part. The left handed graph is an example of how things grow when it is not longer dangerous to admit to be that thing. Be it left handed, gay, trans, socialist, or yahtzee. When your life or safety is no longer in danger. It becomes that much easier and more likely that you will come out publicly admit to belonging to a group or affiliation that was formerly dangerous to belong to. 

so you are saying there is no danger.

good. 

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To spout off about politics at a sporting event is unseemly and wrong really.   To do it overseas and complain about things back home is an affront.   Its the optics of it.   Would you expect a Finnish athlete that trashed Finland while participating in the Olympics to be hailed a hero in Finland and be welcomed back with open arms.  Replace Finland with any other country in the world except the US.   You would expect there would be repercussions anywhere else in the world for such unseemly behavior.   But it is unthinkable here?   I think most people want the athletes representing their country to show love and respect for their country.   To trash it internationally is not the right way to make changes.   Have some real courage and do it here and try to make the changes you want here rather than complain over there.    Similar to why the Dixie Chicks lost US support when they spouted off overseas.   Does not make people love you at home.  

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5 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

This quote from Vance really gave me vibes of those authoritarian countries we've wrestled against like Russia/Iran about their athletes not being allowed the freedom to speak their minds when competing on an international stage.

 

"When you’re representing the country, you’re representing Democrats and Republicans,” Vance continued. “You’re there to play a sport, and you’re there to represent your country, and hopefully win a medal. You’re not there to pop off about politics.”

 

Like deal with it... I'm sure if the athletes were saying how much they loved ICE he wouldn't have a problem with it... The level of sensitivity and outright disdain for people that don't agree with this administration is honestly getting to frightening territory. History has rarely if ever, looked back poorly on athletes standing up for peoples' civil rights years later. Not sure why this administration thinks that censorship is the right path to go down but it boggles the mind.

 

 

Let me know when a politician locks them up in a labor camp creates strategic starvation to kill millions. 

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Siding with the 20% in an 80/20 split, overseas?  What could go wrong.  And listen to this guy, “are we Soviet Russia?”  Some people have such a sheltered existence. 

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1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

Siding with the 20% in an 80/20 split, overseas?  What could go wrong.  And listen to this guy, “are we Soviet Russia?”  Some people have such a sheltered existence. 

yes, this.   Too young to remember the Soviet Union.   But the question is really quite silly.   He is more than likely Pro NYC mayor Zambaini and he's an avowed socialist and I'd argue communist.   The USSR was communist.   So he really is for communism or socialism if he'd rather.   So the question is absurd.  If I have this wrong I will take it back.   But I don't think I am wrong on this.   

He supports socialism but is afraid we are turning into the USSR  (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).   Let that sink in.   

mspart

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2 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Let me know when a politician locks them up in a labor camp creates strategic starvation to kill millions. 

The road to authoritarianism isn't a quick right turn, it's a long winding road that one suddenly asks how they got there... 

Or for those with lower levels of synapses firing in their brains, walk like a duck, talk like a duck... it's probably a...

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1 hour ago, mspart said:

yes, this.   Too young to remember the Soviet Union.   But the question is really quite silly.   He is more than likely Pro NYC mayor Zambaini and he's an avowed socialist and I'd argue communist.   The USSR was communist.   So he really is for communism or socialism if he'd rather.   So the question is absurd.  If I have this wrong I will take it back.   But I don't think I am wrong on this.   

He supports socialism but is afraid we are turning into the USSR  (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).   Let that sink in.   

mspart

When you say "he" are you referencing me with all of your baseless assumptions? 
 

I would also hope you are smart enough to realize that communism is also defined in practice as one party rule with centralized state authority, suppression of political opposition along with heavy control of the media. All things Trump and his sycophants are actively pushing our country towards and would have over night if he could. 

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15 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

The road to authoritarianism isn't a quick right turn, it's a long winding road that one suddenly asks how they got there... 

Or for those with lower levels of synapses firing in their brains, walk like a duck, talk like a duck... it's probably a...

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16 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

Maybe your comprehension is lacking today but nowhere did I say he couldn't express his opinion...

However, his opinion sounds very much like those that have instituted and imposed state sponsored censorship to those that have any disagreement with their government. 
 

Since you love engaging in whataboutism like others here, I can't imagine the collective MAGA head explosion that would happen if Biden said that some rodeo cowboy that got bucked off his steer - is only allowed to get his head smashed in by the hooves of an animal at the rodeo and not allowed to express support for Trump after putting on a MAGA hat...

My comprehension is fine bro.  

It is your hypocrisy that is putrid.

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9 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

The road to authoritarianism isn't a quick right turn, it's a long winding road that one suddenly asks how they got there... 

Or for those with lower levels of synapses firing in their brains, walk like a duck, talk like a duck... it's probably a...

Leftist authoritarianism, which is what created all the horrors of the last 100 years was usually brought on rapidly, although all the signs we obvious. He usually involved a radical takeover of the education system, anti religion, and class warfare. Also the division of people into victim classes and oppressor groups. Then a violent revolution by a minority where they force their agenda on the majority, destroy the productive class. Then decades of misery, death and despair. Never quick but always the same. 

Now if you want to know in America who is bringing about  authoritarianism, look at the laws being passed and who sponsors them and what administration signs them them. Then look at who tries to reduce government power and then tell me who's more likely right now to take violent control of the people and government.

Do yourself a favor and do a small study on The gulag archipelago.  Your understanding of your philosophy will grow greatly. You will either see the dangers of what you espouse or a means of achievement.

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32 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

My comprehension is fine bro.  

It is your hypocrisy that is putrid.

Bruh, for some reason you are always crashing out over my posts... why do you always get your panties in such a bunch? 

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2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Bruh, for some reason you are always crashing out over my posts... why do you always get your panties in such a bunch? 

Crash out?  No dude, I laugh at you.  Your worldview is hilarious, if a little scary.

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30 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Leftist authoritarianism, which is what created all the horrors of the last 100 years was usually brought on rapidly, although all the signs we obvious. He usually involved a radical takeover of the education system, anti religion, and class warfare. Also the division of people into victim classes and oppressor groups. Then a violent revolution by a minority where they force their agenda on the majority, destroy the productive class. Then decades of misery, death and despair. Never quick but always the same. 

Now if you want to know in America who is bringing about  authoritarianism, look at the laws being passed and who sponsors them and what administration signs them them. Then look at who tries to reduce government power and then tell me who's more likely right now to take violent control of the people and government.

Do yourself a favor and do a small study on The gulag archipelago.  Your understanding of your philosophy will grow greatly. You will either see the dangers of what you espouse or a means of achievement.

This post makes sense that you completely absolve and gloss over horrors caused by facism and their regimes...

That however is not surprising considering you fully support facists in government today. Maybe climb out of the hole or media echo chamber you live in today and you would see the startling similarities to today's MAGA and the culture wars wrought on Germany early on by the nazi party in Germany... or if that's too triggering for you we can go on and on about other regimes.

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2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This post makes sense that you completely absolve and gloss over horrors caused by facism and their regimes...

That however is not surprising considering you fully support facists in government today. Maybe climb out of the hole or media echo chamber you live in today and you would see the startling similarities to today's MAGA and the culture wars wrought on Germany early on by the nazi party in Germany... or if that's too triggering for you we can go on and on about other regimes.

There's been one fascist country Italy in lasted for about 5 minutes, The Nazis were the national socialists. So you tell me what category should they go in.

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