Crap Country: U.S. 46th In Life Expectancy

[red viking]

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-life-expectancy-around-the-world-in-2025/

Among other data showing that were falling behind other developed countries in various indicators of quality of life. Too much crappy pesticide-and sugar-laden food, pollutants and infrastructure (or lack thereof) that require you to drive your fat lazy butt anywhere you go. 

Not to mention drastically overpriced medical care. 

Edited yesterday at 01:20 AM by red viking

[Viratas]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-life-expectancy-around-the-world-in-2025/

Among other data showing that were falling behind other developed countries in various indicators of quality of life. Too much crappy pesticide-and sugar-laden food, pollutants and infrastructure (or lack thereof) that require you to drive your fat lazy butt anywhere you go. 

Not to mention drastically overpriced medical care. 

But ObamaCare was gonna make it affordable for all.... what happened? 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-life-expectancy-around-the-world-in-2025/

Among other data showing that were falling behind other developed countries in various indicators of quality of life. Too much crappy pesticide-and sugar-laden food, pollutants and infrastructure (or lack thereof) that require you to drive your fat lazy butt anywhere you go. 

Not to mention drastically overpriced medical care. 

You spend like rfk jr.  I thought you hated him 

[red viking]

13 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You spend like rfk jr.  I thought you hated him 

He sucks overall. I do like his opposition to fluoride and all the crap we put in food supply though. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

6 hours ago, Viratas said:

But ObamaCare was gonna make it affordable for all.... what happened? 

ACA successfully made healthcare affordable. The ACA is an outstandingly good program.

Red or blue doesn't matter. What matters is that lower income folks can get help with their health care.

The billionaires will keep making billions, that won't change.

I can't imagine anyone having a problem with keeping Americans healthy, even if it costs the billionaires less than 1%.

[jross]

Good news…

Exercise and maintaining a healthy weight adds five years.

The difference between an upbeat and grateful person versus a negative nancy and chronic complainer is about 10 years.

Eliminating drugs, guns, and alcohol only adds about 1.5 years.

MAHA is a choice in your control.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

50 minutes ago, jross said:

 

The difference between an upbeat and grateful person versus a negative nancy and chronic complainer is about 10 years.

 

Red Herring better get working on this, or he isn't going to last very long!

[Viratas]

5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

ACA successfully made healthcare affordable. The ACA is an outstandingly good program.

Red or blue doesn't matter. What matters is that lower income folks can get help with their health care.

The billionaires will keep making billions, that won't change.

I can't imagine anyone having a problem with keeping Americans healthy, even if it costs the billionaires less than 1%.

I am middle class (yes, the majority of us), mine is far from affordable, not even close, and the coverage we have is awful and expensive. So yeah, where did it make it affordable? The poor already had good health coverage. Minnesota had a great, scalable system called MNCare, which provided quality health care to all US citizens. Obamacare destroyed that program. Our insurance has been considerably higher since Obamacare. It is not working, do we need good HC yes, we can agree 100% on that, of any issue that should be bipartisan, this is it.

[Scouts Honor]

more good news

the borders are still open going out.

[mspart]

Obama care, as V says, has made things more expensive.  And that is with the subsidy that is ending at the end of this year.   Just imagine how bad it will be without that subsidy.   

Sounds like education.    Spend more money for a worse product. 

mspart

[red viking]

If you wingers think health care costs will drop any significant amount if we eliminate Obama care, I have a glacier to sell you. 

[mspart]

Said wingers told the Ds that obamacare would drive costs up because it is a subsidized situation.   But the Ds would not listen and here we are.  

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

everything the light touches

[red viking]

12 minutes ago, mspart said:

Said wingers told the Ds that obamacare would drive costs up because it is a subsidized situation.   But the Ds would not listen and here we are.  

mspart

Health care costs have increased faster than inflation partially due to subsidization but Obama care is only a small part of that. Medicare and refusing to turn away anybody that shows up at hospitals are much bigger parts of the subsidization. Should we just tell these people to fend 4 themselves? If not, then obamacare barely makes a,dent because these people are entitled to medical care either way. 

Edited 13 hours ago by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

entitled

[red viking]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

entitled

Kick those poor scum to the curb. No healthcare for them. 

[Scouts Honor]

local mechanic goes out of business

sued by person entitled to have his car fixed 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

local mechanic goes out of business

sued by person entitled to have his car fixed 

Yah! Thats right!! Refuse health care if those poor scumbags show up to hospital!! Let them die in the foyer!!!!

[Lipdrag]

There seems to be a genetic component to longevity.  It might be a more powerful correlation to longevity than geography and, perhaps, even causal.  Crazy idea, I know.

If we take the percentage of American genes and then look at the world's populations with all the same percentages does that basket of genes come out above or below 46?  Is our decline recently due to the change in the genetic mix?  

Another way to ask this is Do Japanese Americans die faster than Japanese?  Do African Americans die faster than Africans?  Do TransAmericans die faster than TransEuropeans?

If we are going to get all science-y and start throwing around statements like "crap country" let's do the math and figure out if we are, in fact, just a reflection of a bunch of crap genes.

Do we have anyone good at math and spreadsheets and statistics who can help us here?  I would do it but I have been accused of applying garbage math by some of our more worthy brethren.

Edited 12 hours ago by Lipdrag

[mspart]

I nominate WKN. 

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

Yah! Thats right!! Refuse health care if those poor scumbags show up to hospital!! Let them die in the foyer!!!!

local body man asked to work for free.

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

I nominate WKN. 

mspart

delete

Edited 9 hours ago by Scouts Honor
never mind

[Scouts Honor]

i didn't read the post above

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

Yah! Thats right!! Refuse health care if those poor scumbags show up to hospital!! Let them die in the foyer!!!!

 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

16 hours ago, Viratas said:

I am middle class (yes, the majority of us), mine is far from affordable, not even close, and the coverage we have is awful and expensive. So yeah, where did it make it affordable? The poor already had good health coverage. Minnesota had a great, scalable system called MNCare, which provided quality health care to all US citizens. Obamacare destroyed that program. Our insurance has been considerably higher since Obamacare. It is not working, do we need good HC yes, we can agree 100% on that, of any issue that should be bipartisan, this is it.

Agreed that the wealthiest country in the world should be able to provide healthcare for those that can't afford it.

That seems the most decent and human concept since Jesus. (And I mean that literally.)

ACA/ObamaCare has made healthcare far more affordable than it had been. If you still don't think it's affordable - then you should consider that it would cost far more without it.

If you still think HC is too expensive, then you should join the conversation between R's and D's right now that is keeping the government shut down. D's are defending affordable health care on their side - R's want to take funding away from affordable health care.

Don't believe me. It's the truth, and it's all out there for you to read up on if you feel like googling it.