Who should get seeded at National Duals? Pick 4

[nhs67]

55 minutes ago, ionel said:

I was thinking and hoping nhs.  

Do it.  We'll get all the fun ones out the gate.

Edit: Specifically we would settle the debate for OSU once and for all.  Oregon State would show up and displace another random team... let's say... Wyoming... and Iowa State would also show up and displace... let's say... LRA.

Oregon State VS Ohio State, winner getting Oklahoma State.  The only two duals we actually need.

Edited October 7, 2025 by nhs67

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Oregon State VS Ohio State, winner getting Oklahoma State.  The only two duals we actually need.

The National OSU Duals!   Winner claims the "OSU" name for a year ... MP should love it.  

[okokzach]

Officially:

4. OK State 

3. Ohio State

2. Nebraska 

1. Iowa 

[okokzach]

[D3 for LU]

A real tough row to hoe for LEHIGH... hopefully they'll fight thru in the consis (though, a loss in the 1st rnd, I believe they can only go as high as 5th.Those that lose in the semis get to go for 3rd/4th, yes?)

D3

[okokzach]

56 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

A real tough row to hoe for LEHIGH... hopefully they'll fight thru in the consis (though, a loss in the 1st rnd, I believe they can only go as high as 5th.Those that lose in the semis get to go for 3rd/4th, yes?)

D3

The way I read the bracket, the highest consi finish is 5th unfortunately. 

[MNRodent]

Which is the toughest quartile?  Lower left is probably the most balanced.

[Truzzcat]

I'm sure 

it did not really register with me just how many incredible matches we get to see because of this event that we otherwise would not see until NCAA's.

r1 alone 
Sinclair vs Ferrari
Stanich vs Hardy
Robideau vs Meyer???
Ruiz vs Facundo
Mcneil vs larkin?
Volke vs Ventresca 
Millard vs Miller
Seidel vs Cannon?
Mullen vs Hopke
Greg d vs Spratley
Young vs Cornella
Swiderski vs Joy
Mendoza vs Ayala/Bailey
 

I'm sure I missed some.. god I love wrestling.

Edited October 8, 2025 by Truzzcat

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, MNRodent said:

Which is the toughest quartile?  Lower left is probably the most balanced.

every one seems to have 3 very good teams and 1 outlier. My lean was bottom left because I think Northern iowa is a bit stronger that little rock and Wyoming and the other 3 teams are very good althought top right probably has 3 teams that could maybe sneak on the podium without too much stretch of the imagination which I would say is not true for a few of the others at least not right now.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Iowa and VT on opposite sides, and that was random? Suuure.

JK. I'm intrigued by the, very faint, possibility of Iowa vs UNI. Coaches corners should have some fireworks

[MizzouFan01]

13 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

I'm sure 

it did not really register with me just how many incredible matches we get to see because of this event that we otherwise would not see until NCAA's.

r1 alone 
Sinclair vs Ferrari
Stanich vs Hardy
Robideau vs Meyer???
Ruiz vs Facundo
Mcneil vs larkin?
Volke vs Ventresca 
Millard vs Miller
Seidel vs Cannon?
Mullen vs Hopke
Greg d vs Spratley
Young vs Cornella
Swiderski vs Joy
Mendoza vs Ayala/Bailey
 

I'm sure I missed some.. god I love wrestling.

Cam Steed vs Patrick Kennedy 

[ionel]

16 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

it did not really register with me just how many incredible matches we get to see because of this event that we otherwise would not see until NCAA's.

When you say "we" are you saying it with ticket in hand? 

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

When you say "we" are you saying it with ticket in hand? 

I WISH I meant "we" from the perspective of my fellow forum friends watching behind the computer screen ready to post about every bad call and upset! I may go to RAF though although the card is not great.

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, Truzzcat said:

Sinclair vs Ferrari
Stanich vs Hardy
Robideau vs Meyer???
Ruiz vs Facundo
Mcneil vs larkin?
Volke vs Ventresca 
Millard vs Miller
Seidel vs Cannon?
Mullen vs Hopke
Greg d vs Spratley
Young vs Cornella
Swiderski vs Joy
Mendoza vs Ayala/Bailey

Shapiro, Greg D, and Cornella won't be there, unfortunately.  Not enrolled this semester.

[cangemi]

Im kinda glad Penn state not there. Makes this exciting. We dont know who will win. ? Better for fans and sport.

There the best . But for this I hope they stay out. JMHO

[Pinnacle]

4 hours ago, cangemi said:

Im kinda glad Penn state not there. Makes this exciting. We dont know who will win. ? Better for fans and sport.

There the best . But for this I hope they stay out. JMHO

Penn State will wrestle 3 of the top 4 seeds in duals this year. Do you think those duals will be exciting, or do you think Penn State will just crush them? 

[Gene Mills Fan]

11 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

I'm sure 

it did not really register with me just how many incredible matches we get to see because of this event that we otherwise would not see until NCAA's.

r1 alone 
Sinclair vs Ferrari
Stanich vs Hardy
Robideau vs Meyer???
Ruiz vs Facundo
Mcneil vs larkin?
Volke vs Ventresca 
Millard vs Miller
Seidel vs Cannon?
Mullen vs Hopke
Greg d vs Spratley
Young vs Cornella
Swiderski vs Joy
Mendoza vs Ayala/Bailey
 

I'm sure I missed some.. god I love wrestling.

added anticipation looking ahead to 133 national finals redo: Ayala/Byrd

[nhs67]

Really curious what schools will field entire lineups that early.

Cornell being down nearly half their starters is a bummer.  Will Michigan and Iowa have their full line-ups?  How many transfers are starting, total (first year)?  How many of those need to wait until the 2nd Semester?

Schools that could be without 'starters' to start the gate:
Iowa - 125 Peterson, 141 Bailey, 157 Williams, 197 Endene
Mizzou - 165 Mayfield, 197 Bates
Illinois - 125 Moore, 149 Gioffre, 197 Lautt
Little Rock - 149 Herman

Northern Iowa - 149 Rathjen
Cornell - 125 Diakomihalis, 133 Ungar, 141 Cornella, 149 Fernandez
Oklahoma State - 133 Figueroa, 149 Swiderski, 174 Facundo, 184 Ryder
NC State - 133 Redding, Brophy 197

Ohio State - 149 Stiles, 184 Fishback
Virginia Tech -  157 Miller, 174 Desiante, 184 Bullock
Minnesota - 125 Volk, 133 Cannon
Wyoming - 125 Douglass, 133 Phelps, 285 Carroll

Michigan - 125 Sotello, 149 McNeil, 285 Ghadiali
Arizona State - 197 Hawkes, 285 Szuba
Lehigh - **
Nebraska - 149 Lamer, 285 Ferrari

Lehigh is the only one without a first year transfer in, FWIW.  That said, until I see Crookham take the mat, I will always question it at an early season tournament.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

21 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Penn State will wrestle 3 of the top 4 seeds in duals this year. Do you think those duals will be exciting, or do you think Penn State will just crush them? 

You're the best man! Penn State is the awesomest.  I wish I was their fan!  They shouldn't ever bother doing anything to help the sport.  They ARE the sport!  I wish I could just comment on how great they are constantly!

If you don't like this event, you are free to not comment.  PSU is historically great, but we can still have fun without their involvement.

Edited October 8, 2025 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[nhs67]

The poetic justice is that Minny is seeded in the same quarter as tOSU, so there is that to look forward to.

[nhs67]

Now:  How do the brackets actually look for this?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

16 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Now:  How do the brackets actually look for this?

I've seen them posted on x.  Maybe Willie or flo?

oops... just looked... its posted above.

Edited October 8, 2025 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Did I miss something?  How were the top four seeds determined and by whom? (And I realize that everyone else was drawn in).  I seem to remember Willie saying that he was somewhat involved.

[Gene Mills Fan]

18 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Really curious what schools will field entire lineups that early.

Cornell being down nearly half their starters is a bummer.  Will Michigan and Iowa have their full line-ups?  How many transfers are starting, total (first year)?  How many of those need to wait until the 2nd Semester?

Schools that could be without 'starters' to start the gate:
Iowa - 125 Peterson, 141 Bailey, 157 Williams, 197 Endene
Mizzou - 165 Mayfield, 197 Bates
Illinois - 125 Moore, 149 Gioffre, 197 Lautt
Little Rock - 149 Herman

Northern Iowa - 149 Rathjen
Cornell - 125 Diakomihalis, 133 Ungar, 141 Cornella, 149 Fernandez
Oklahoma State - 133 Figueroa, 149 Swiderski, 174 Facundo, 184 Ryder
NC State - 133 Redding, Brophy 197

Ohio State - 149 Stiles, 184 Fishback
Virginia Tech -  157 Miller, 174 Desiante, 184 Bullock
Minnesota - 125 Volk, 133 Cannon
Wyoming - 125 Douglass, 133 Phelps, 285 Carroll

Michigan - 125 Sotello, 149 McNeil, 285 Ghadiali
Arizona State - 197 Hawkes, 285 Szuba
Lehigh - **
Nebraska - 149 Lamer, 285 Ferrari

Lehigh is the only one without a first year transfer in, FWIW.  That said, until I see Crookham take the mat, I will always question it at an early season tournament.

the name the date the above are the small things I complained about and now am like: AWESOME IT CAN EVOLVE!! but truthfully not sure we some of these expected matches this early migratory bird duck season starts at dawn Oct 18th this year. Anyway its still Awesome!!

lower left quarter possibility  Robinson /Spratley

Edited October 8, 2025 by Gene Mills Fan

[nhs67]

10 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I've seen them posted on x.  Maybe Willie or flo?

oops... just looked... its posted above.

I am more curious on the consolations.

Are they done if they lose?  That seems crappy.