Before comey and Leticia James get indicted

[Caveira]

Before they get indicted.  And y’all go screaming and crying they’re politically motivated and they’re going after their opponents.   
 

Right here boss:

 

[Offthemat]

I’m not sure that applies to dimocrats. 

[1032004]

Weird that the Trump appointed attorney quit rather than pursue these cases.

[headshuck]

Weird that the Trump appointed attorney quit rather than pursue these cases.

Weird in like terrified?

[Offthemat]

42 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Weird that the Trump appointed attorney quit rather than pursue these cases.

He didn’t quit. 

[mspart]

Comey has been indicted. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-charges-james-comey-lying-congress-rcna233581?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

mspart

[Offthemat]

I expect there’ll be more charges as the investigation progresses. 

[scourge165]

On 9/24/2025 at 8:50 PM, Caveira said:

Before they get indicted.  And y’all go screaming and crying they’re politically motivated and they’re going after their opponents.   
 

Right here boss:

 

Scott Bessent did the same thing. 

 

So YET AGAIN... the Trump administration shows it's hypocrisy. 

 

Scott Bessent took out two mortgages in 2007, both secondary homes and listed each as his primary residence to try and procure favorable interest rates.

 

Does anyone see Scott Bessent being indicted? Christ, he's not even under investigation... and the reason is hilarious. They knew he was lying. So... all good! 

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, Offthemat said:

I expect there’ll be more charges as the investigation progresses. 

I'm sure they will. Trump has openly said he's going after his enemies. 

Again, Scott Bessent did the EXACT same thing as James, but... we're going to ignore that. 

You will ONLY be prosecuted if you... are not MAGA and a Trump appointee. 

[Caveira]

6 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Trump has openly said he's going after his enemies.

Really?

 

[Caveira]

This would make the news I bet 

 

[Doublehalf]

So glad all these indictments are lowering the cost of living and housing prices for America. Does the right even care about kitchen table issues anymore or are they fully bought into the culture war is the end all be all of a presidency?

[jross]

False Dichotomy for $1000, Alex.

[JimmySpeaks]

Karma coming back at the liberals and they can’t handle it.  Was no big deal to waste money on indictments when Biden was doing it.  All of a sudden dinner table issue matter.  Paybacks a bitch. I hope they do some prime time hearings like Dems did too. 

Edited September 29 by JimmySpeaks

[headshuck]

Did they find an archive of the Anthony Weiner laptop?

[Caveira]

Live Updates: N.Y. Attorney General Letitia James Indicted After Trump’s Pressure Campaign

Ms. James is accused of committing mortgage fraud. Her indictment follows a case brought against the former F.B.I. director James Comey.

[Lipdrag]

On 9/25/2025 at 7:38 PM, mspart said:

Comey has been indicted. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-charges-james-comey-lying-congress-rcna233581?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

mspart

And now exonerated by 51 Intelligence Officers who are never wrong about anything:

 

And the coup d'grace final paragraph:

https://babylonbee.com/news/james-comey-produces-letter-signed-by-51-former-intelligence-officials-saying-hes-totally-innocent

Edited 15 hours ago by Lipdrag

[mspart]

Turley has this take:    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/10/09/comeys-hail-mary-play-the-former-fbi-director-will-reportedly-raise-three-threshold-challenges-to-his-criminal-charges/

He says Comey will fight the trial 3 ways, one of which has a real chance. 

Unlawful Appointment

The final claim may have more potential for Comey. He will claim that Lindsey Halligan, who signed off on the grand jury indictment, was unlawfully appointed to her position. This technicality could derail the case because the Administration does not have the luxury of going back and redoing the indictment. The Trump Administration brought down the indictment shortly before the expiration of the five-year statute of limitations. If any of these claims succeed, the case is likely dead as Delinger.

This issue turns on a somewhat arcane provision under Section 546(d) of Title 28 of the United States Code, which authorizes an Attorney General to appoint an interim United States Attorney for a term of 120 days. The problem is that the Trump Administration used that provision to appoint  Erik Siebert, the predecessor of Halligan. The statute says that once the 120-day period has ended, “the district court for such district may appoint a United States attorney to serve until the vacancy is filled.”

Comey will argue that this is a one-time option and that the appointment of a new acting U.S. Attorney had to be made by the district court. If so, the indictment was invalid and, again, the case is dead and cannot be revived with the expiration of the statute of limitations.

In Siebert’s case, his term expired 120 days after his Jan. 21 appointment by Acting Attorney General James McHenry, on or about May 21. After that, Whelan said, Eastern District of Virginia judges appointed him to continue to serve.

Comey has the advantage of being able to cite a memorandum by none other than Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito from when he served in the Office of Legal Counsel in 1986. Alito concluded that “after the expiration of the 120-day period further interim appointments are to be made by the court rather than by the Attorney General.” He added, “it would appear that Congress intended to confer on the Attorney General only the power to make one interim appointment; a subsequent interim appointment would have to be made by the district court.”

The Trump Administration can argue that Trump fired  Siebert, thereby vacating the office for a second time. Under this argument, the process restarts with the vacancy. Comey will argue that this could allow a president to circumvent the intent of Congress by firing acting U.S. Attorneys to daisy chain vacancies allowing endless new 120-day periods to run.

While these are tough claims to make in a criminal case, the case is equally challenging for the Trump Administration. Putting aside the fact that they are in front of a Biden-appointed judge in a heavily Democratic district, the claims of false statements and obstruction often turn on highly interpretative views of a person’s intent or knowledge. If Comey succeeds on these threshold challenges, the case could also be bogged down for years in appeals. A Democratic president could then scuttle any trial or he could be given a pardon to end the matter effectively.

In other words, it does not sound like Comey is going to jail any time soon.

For those that insist that Comey is a Maga dude, please point out how his reasoning here is wrong.   I challenged everyone on another thread and no one took the challenge.  I take that that he is not wrong in his legal reasoning.   It just goes against the left who are crazy.  

mspart

 

[mspart]

Oh the horror. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ny-attorney-general-letitia-james-trump-opponent-indicted-grand-jury-b-rcna236737?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Grand jury indicts N.Y. Attorney General Letitia James, a Trump opponent, on bank fraud charges

James, a Democrat, has clashed with President Donald Trump after she brought civil charges against him in New York.

 

WASHINGTON — New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat who has clashed with President Donald Trump, was indicted Thursday by a federal grand jury in Virginia.

James was charged with one count of bank fraud and one count of making false statements to a financial institution after Trump publicly called for his Justice Department appointees to bring charges against her. The indictment alleges James falsely claimed that a home in Norfolk, Virginia, was her second residence, allowing her to obtain favorable loan terms, and that she rented the property to a family of three.

James could face up to 30 years in prison and up to a $1 million fine on each count if she’s convicted.

She vehemently denied the charges.

“These charges are baseless, and the president’s own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost," James said in a statement that she also read aloud in a video on X. "The president’s actions are a grave violation of our Constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties."

Does this sound familiar?  one count of making false statements to a financial institution

Gee it sure sounds familiar to me.   Not only that, but this is a concrete allegation as opposed to what I heard before.   She is crying foul for the same thing she did to him.  She ran her campaign on the promise she would get Trump on something if she was elected.   She was elected and she cobbled together a crazy outlandish prosecution.   You go after Trump for making false statements to financial institutions, you better be quite sure you are not anywhere close to such a thing.   Elections have consequences and conducting a baseless witch hunt does too.   

I'm sure Turley will comment on this tomorrow.   He will probably say this is going too far.   She tried to bleed him dry and campaigned on that.   Talk about a grave violation of the Constitutional order.  She doesn't recognize such a thing if it isn't directly aimed at her.   

mspart

[headshuck]

After the outrage by the media and every Democrat hoping to get Trump when it was their turn, there will be a followup wave of evidence of hypocrisy. Only then will the administration drop the case.

[1032004]

5 hours ago, mspart said:

Oh the horror. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ny-attorney-general-letitia-james-trump-opponent-indicted-grand-jury-b-rcna236737?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Grand jury indicts N.Y. Attorney General Letitia James, a Trump opponent, on bank fraud charges

James, a Democrat, has clashed with President Donald Trump after she brought civil charges against him in New York.

 

WASHINGTON — New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat who has clashed with President Donald Trump, was indicted Thursday by a federal grand jury in Virginia.

James was charged with one count of bank fraud and one count of making false statements to a financial institution after Trump publicly called for his Justice Department appointees to bring charges against her. The indictment alleges James falsely claimed that a home in Norfolk, Virginia, was her second residence, allowing her to obtain favorable loan terms, and that she rented the property to a family of three.

James could face up to 30 years in prison and up to a $1 million fine on each count if she’s convicted.

She vehemently denied the charges.

“These charges are baseless, and the president’s own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost," James said in a statement that she also read aloud in a video on X. "The president’s actions are a grave violation of our Constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties."

Does this sound familiar?  one count of making false statements to a financial institution

Gee it sure sounds familiar to me.   Not only that, but this is a concrete allegation as opposed to what I heard before.   She is crying foul for the same thing she did to him.  She ran her campaign on the promise she would get Trump on something if she was elected.   She was elected and she cobbled together a crazy outlandish prosecution.   You go after Trump for making false statements to financial institutions, you better be quite sure you are not anywhere close to such a thing.   Elections have consequences and conducting a baseless witch hunt does too.   

I'm sure Turley will comment on this tomorrow.   He will probably say this is going too far.   She tried to bleed him dry and campaigned on that.   Talk about a grave violation of the Constitutional order.  She doesn't recognize such a thing if it isn't directly aimed at her.   

mspart

There is nothing concrete about the allegation 

[1032004]

6 hours ago, mspart said:

Turley has this take:    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/10/09/comeys-hail-mary-play-the-former-fbi-director-will-reportedly-raise-three-threshold-challenges-to-his-criminal-charges/

He says Comey will fight the trial 3 ways, one of which has a real chance. 

Unlawful Appointment

The final claim may have more potential for Comey. He will claim that Lindsey Halligan, who signed off on the grand jury indictment, was unlawfully appointed to her position. This technicality could derail the case because the Administration does not have the luxury of going back and redoing the indictment. The Trump Administration brought down the indictment shortly before the expiration of the five-year statute of limitations. If any of these claims succeed, the case is likely dead as Delinger.

This issue turns on a somewhat arcane provision under Section 546(d) of Title 28 of the United States Code, which authorizes an Attorney General to appoint an interim United States Attorney for a term of 120 days. The problem is that the Trump Administration used that provision to appoint  Erik Siebert, the predecessor of Halligan. The statute says that once the 120-day period has ended, “the district court for such district may appoint a United States attorney to serve until the vacancy is filled.”

Comey will argue that this is a one-time option and that the appointment of a new acting U.S. Attorney had to be made by the district court. If so, the indictment was invalid and, again, the case is dead and cannot be revived with the expiration of the statute of limitations.

In Siebert’s case, his term expired 120 days after his Jan. 21 appointment by Acting Attorney General James McHenry, on or about May 21. After that, Whelan said, Eastern District of Virginia judges appointed him to continue to serve.

Comey has the advantage of being able to cite a memorandum by none other than Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito from when he served in the Office of Legal Counsel in 1986. Alito concluded that “after the expiration of the 120-day period further interim appointments are to be made by the court rather than by the Attorney General.” He added, “it would appear that Congress intended to confer on the Attorney General only the power to make one interim appointment; a subsequent interim appointment would have to be made by the district court.”

The Trump Administration can argue that Trump fired  Siebert, thereby vacating the office for a second time. Under this argument, the process restarts with the vacancy. Comey will argue that this could allow a president to circumvent the intent of Congress by firing acting U.S. Attorneys to daisy chain vacancies allowing endless new 120-day periods to run.

While these are tough claims to make in a criminal case, the case is equally challenging for the Trump Administration. Putting aside the fact that they are in front of a Biden-appointed judge in a heavily Democratic district, the claims of false statements and obstruction often turn on highly interpretative views of a person’s intent or knowledge. If Comey succeeds on these threshold challenges, the case could also be bogged down for years in appeals. A Democratic president could then scuttle any trial or he could be given a pardon to end the matter effectively.

In other words, it does not sound like Comey is going to jail any time soon.

For those that insist that Comey is a Maga dude, please point out how his reasoning here is wrong.   I challenged everyone on another thread and no one took the challenge.  I take that that he is not wrong in his legal reasoning.   It just goes against the left who are crazy.  

mspart

 

I’m not following.  Are you saying believing that Comey will win “goes against the left”?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

7 hours ago, mspart said:

...It just goes against the left who are crazy.  

mspart

So, you say, the "left are crazy"?

Half the country (48%) who voted D vs the other half (49%) that voted R.

Interesting that you choose to somehow tie sanity to voting choices.

It's almost as if you're falling into the trap that has been set for all of us. The 'divide the country in half' trap.

(Then again, I'm not convinced you're even from the US.)

[Caveira]

5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

So, you say, the "left are crazy"?

Half the country (48%) who voted D vs the other half (49%) that voted R.

Interesting that you choose to somehow tie sanity to voting choices.

It's almost as if you're falling into the trap that has been set for all of us. The 'divide the country in half' trap.

(Then again, I'm not convinced you're even from the US.)

You don’t belong to a basket of deplorables do you ?

[Offthemat]

7 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I’m not following.  Are you saying believing that Comey will win “goes against the left”?

He typed “Comey” but meant Turley.