Antifa A Terrorist Organization

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Calling the Senate DEI is the same bastardization, misnomering, that is consistent with the left’s agenda for the destruction of the country.  And the endorsement of democracy, better understood as mob rule, was severely despised and rejected by our ingenious founders.  

Why? 

You guys love to make claims and then you never support them.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

I want all Republican votes to matter. 

They shouldn't have to. That's stupid.

It does matter already. That's the whole point. Your vote only matters if you live in a state where the majority votes with your or you're in a swing state. You seem to have trouble following basic logical progressions.

No it doesn't!  I have literally listened to famous liberals talk about how their vote for Kamala doesn't matter because they live in NY.   If they moved elsewhere it would!  It is you who seems to have difficulty following logic, if your copy and paste articles don't give you any direction...

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

No it doesn't!  I have literally listened to famous liberals talk about how their vote for Kamala doesn't matter because they live in NY.   If they moved elsewhere it would!  It is you who seems to have difficulty following logic, if your copy and paste articles don't give you any direction...

In their logic, your vote only matters if you live in a swing state, which is a rational take and one that totally fits with mine.

Sure, but as I said, that's a really stupid system and totally unnecessary.

Your vote should matter no matter where you choose to live. Please explain why you disagree with that.

Edited 2 hours ago by uncle bernard

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

Sure, but as I said, that's a really stupid system and totally unnecessary.

Your vote should matter no matter where you choose to live. Please explain why you disagree with that.

That is not what you said though.  Nice try.  In addition to being a pseudo-intellectual, you are also dishonest- intellectually and morally.

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

That is not what you said though.  Nice try.  In addition to being a pseudo-intellectual, you are also dishonest- intellectually and morally.

That's exactly what I said. I'll help you out.

Republican votes in California should matter (by being added to the total Republican vote tally for the nation).

Right now they don't matter. Zero Republicans could vote in CA and it would not change the result of the election. That's really stupid. Californian Republicans deserve an equal say in the election as every other citizen.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

That's exactly what I said. I'll help you out.

Republican votes in California should matter (by being added to the total Republican vote tally for the nation).

Right now they don't matter. Zero Republicans could vote in CA and it would not change the result of the election. That's really stupid. Californian Republicans deserve an equal say in the election as every other citizen.

But that was not what you said...Nice try.

You also don't believe it.  It is just convenient at the moment.

[Gene Mills Fan]

10 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Why? 

You guys love to make claims and then you never support them.

Aren't Senators elected

[ionel]

54 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

I like the popular vote because I believe in 1 man - 1 vote. That's the spirit of elections. Everybody is equal, regardless of race, gender, or creed.

So what about property?  What if all those living in the large cities with access to public transportation pass a law outlawing automobiles?  What if same majority refuse to pass funding for rural and small town internet funding?  What it same pass law to strip mineral and water rights from land owners for use by large cities?

Fortunately the founding fathers were smarter than the average internet poster.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

So what about property?  What if all those living in the large cities with access to public transportation pass a law outlawing automobiles?  What if same majority refuse to pass funding for rural and small town internet funding?  What it same pass law to strip mineral and water rights from land owners for use by large cities?

Fortunately the founding fathers were smarter than the average internet poster.

A guy who admires crooked Senator Sanders lol

Edited 2 hours ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[jross]

6 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Explain why.

Because the senate is about state sovereignty and federalism rather than personal identity or social justice.

 

 

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

That is not what you said though.  Nice try.  In addition to being a pseudo-intellectual, you are also dishonest- intellectually and morally.

You're working really hard to ignore the obvious.

Your vote matters if you live in a heavy D/R state if you vote with the majority in the sense that your vote is being represented in the result of the election (your state's electoral votes go to your candidate).

Your vote matters if you live in a swing state because it can actually impact who gets the electoral votes (obvious).

Your vote does not matter if you vote against the majority in a heavy D/R state. No matter what you do, vote or not vote, there is a zero percent chance your vote will impact the election.

There's some very obvious real world evidence here. Why do candidates spend 90% of their campaign resources and time in a handful of swing states? If votes in large majority states mattered, why don't politicians campaign there?

[Offthemat]

11 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Why? 

Why what?  Why do leftists want to destroy the best country and system ever perceived?  Evil.

[uncle bernard]

Just now, jross said:

 

Because the senate is about state sovereignty and federalism rather than personal identity or social justice.

 

 

It's absolutely about identity and social justice. It's artificially inflating the power of smaller states in the interest of fairness/justice.

[red viking]

Just now, jross said:

 

Because the senate is about state sovereignty and federalism rather than personal identity or social justice.

 

 

It's merely a,way to provide more representation to people that own more land. It's pretty much that simple. The Senate should be burnt to the ground.

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

So what about property?  What if all those living in the large cities with access to public transportation pass a law outlawing automobiles?  What if same majority refuse to pass funding for rural and small town internet funding?  What it same pass law to strip mineral and water rights from land owners for use by large cities?

Fortunately the founding fathers were smarter than the average internet poster.

None of that is prevented by the Senate. It could all theoretically happen now.

[uncle bernard]

7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

But that was not what you said...Nice try.

You also don't believe it.  It is just convenient at the moment.

What did I say?

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

None of that is prevented by the Senate. It could all theoretically happen now.

No because states with rural and property interest can work together through the Senate (and House representation) to prevent such power grab by large cities etc. 

Edited 2 hours ago by ionel

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You're working really hard to ignore the obvious.

Your vote matters if you live in a heavy D/R state if you vote with the majority in the sense that your vote is being represented in the result of the election (your state's electoral votes go to your candidate).

Your vote matters if you live in a swing state because it can actually impact who gets the electoral votes (obvious).

Your vote does not matter if you vote against the majority in a heavy D/R state. No matter what you do, vote or not vote, there is a zero percent chance your vote will impact the election.

There's some very obvious real world evidence here. Why do candidates spend 90% of their campaign resources and time in a handful of swing states? If votes in large majority states mattered, why don't politicians campaign there?

But that isn't what you said.

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's merely a,way to provide more representation to people that own more land. It's pretty much that simple. The Senate should be burnt to the ground.

Yes, that is a big part of the history. The founding fathers did not like the common man and were very afraid of democracy which is why they built in guardrails that prevented commoners from influencing government.

We've removed many of those guardrails because we understand that they're wrong. You don't have to own land to vote anymore. The purpose of the senate was to protect smaller states from larger states back in a time when high/low population states often voted with each other. That no longer happens. States vote on ideological lines. Vermont votes with California. Wyoming votes with Texas. The Senate has completely lost its purpose.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

23 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Why? 

You guys love to make claims and then you never support them.

Aren't you the guy who insisted the assassin was an active groyper?

[Bigbrog]

37 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Right, which is why I used the Conservative/Liberal comparison. Millions of people call themselves Conservatives/Liberals in this country. That doesn't mean they're part of an organization.

Wasn't aware of the parent group thing. Did those groups get labelled as domestic terrorists? I hope not. There will always be people with dumb ideas. 

I was more speaking to RV and you saying that antifa isn't "a group".  I also think there is a HUGE distinction between the label Conservative and Liberal than antifa but I am going to assume you understand that as well and are just using it as some sort of attempt to be mad at Trump for labeling antifa as a terrorist organization...which of course is totally fine if that is your opinion because we all know you hate Trump.

Yeah, a teacher's union was calling for labeling parent groups as domestic terrorists but of course it never passed any sort of bill.  But again it is because of distinctions...there is again a HUGE distinction between antifa and a parent group advocating for what their kids are and aren't taught in school.

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

No because states with rural and property interest can work together through the Senate to prevent such power grab by large cities etc. 

They can do that in the House too. Rural reps from California and Illinois can team up together to oppose urban reps from Arkansas and Idaho.

And that's not even what happens in the Senate either. That's what happened 200 years ago, but not today.

[jross]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's merely a,way to provide more representation to people that own more land. It's pretty much that simple. The Senate should be burnt to the ground.

You should leave the country built on policies that you disagree with.

Like if you don't want to shave, stop playing ball with New York Yankees.  

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Aren't you the guy who insisted the assassin was an active groyper?

I predicted that and supported that prediction with the evidence available at the time. And as more evidence came out, I changed my mind. Crazy concept, I know!

[Gene Mills Fan]

A Democratic republic was established to prevent grades 1-5 from determining who the principal is to be.