Trump's DOJ wants to criminalize free speech

[red viking]

Come and stop me Mr. Pedophile!!!!

[El Luchador]

I thought this was going to be about Trump creating a ministry of truth. You know like Biden (Obama) wants.

[scourge165]

12 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/trump-burning-american-flag-executive-order/amp/

 

How about wearing them as speedos or clothes? That's desecrating the flat as well. 

Maybe just... no Laws on speech beyond what we have. The fire in a burning building, the fighting word laws and... threatening people. 

 

Hate speech changes depending on who is in power and with all the ways the right desecrates the flag... 300 pound women with a flag bikini clinging for deer life, they're offensive, not illegal...and shouldn't be. 

[Tripnsweep]

7 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I thought this was going to be about Trump creating a ministry of truth. You know like Biden (Obama) wants.

Obama wore a tan suit though. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

You can say anything you want; when you start doing something it may turn out to be vandalism, which is unlawful. 

[Tripnsweep]

36 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

You can say anything you want; when you start doing something it may turn out to be vandalism, which is unlawful. 

Burning the flag isn't vandalism. Unless it's not yours to burn. 

[headshuck]

Burning the flag isn't vandalism. Unless it's not yours to burn. 

Isn’t that the essence of the issue here? They will be looking at the circumstances around the flag burning.

[Gene Mills Fan]

11 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Burning the flag isn't vandalism. Unless it's not yours to burn. 

so anyone can go start a fire in the street anywhere they want? even if its not a flag there are laws against it.

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

so anyone can go start a fire in the street anywhere they want? even if its not a flag there are laws against it.

Don't be dumb. This e.o. would apply specifically to the flag so it would be treated differently from burning other fabrics. 

[jross]

Read the full article in the OP and then OP can apologize for lying.  

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This would not criminalize the actual burning of the American flag, one administration official told NewsNation.

If someone is injured, for instance, as a result of a flag burning, then charges could be brought, one of the sources explained.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by jross

[WrestlingRasta]

17 minutes ago, jross said:

Read the full article in the OP and then OP can apologize for lying.  

 

It even states in the very first sentence of the article..."ciminalize certain actions related to burning the American flag"

This is very much along the lines of libel, and yelling fire in a theatre.  Free speech is protected, harming others is not. 

People need to stop falling for headlines. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by WrestlingRasta

[headshuck]

But Trip got his shock headline and a day of attention.

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It even states in the very first sentence of the article..."ciminalize certain actions related to burning the American flag"

This is very much along the lines of libel, and yelling fire in a theatre.  Free speech is protected, harming others is not. 

People need to stop falling for headlines. 

 

Outlawing any actions that are specific to the flag but not non-u.s. flags is unconstitutional.  

[WrestlingRasta]

8 minutes ago, red viking said:

Outlawing any actions that are specific to the flag but not non-u.s. flags is unconstitutional.  

Oh really...and where are you coming up with that?

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Oh really...and where are you coming up with that?

1st amendment. It's free speech if its my own fabric and i dont put somebody in danger ( smoke, flames, etc). Just like with any other fabric. 

Edited 1 hour ago by red viking

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Burning the flag isn't vandalism. Unless it's not yours to burn. 

So I could burn my own SUV in the street to protest Cimate Change?   

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

So I could burn my own SUV in the street to protest Cimate Change?   

You could be breaking other laws related to hazardous emissions, blocking a,street, etc. But other than that, yes. 

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

You could be breaking other laws related to hazardous emissions, blocking a,street, etc. But other than that, yes. 

So kindve like flag burning.  

[WrestlingRasta]

37 minutes ago, red viking said:

1st amendment. It's free speech if its my own fabric and i dont put somebody in danger ( smoke, flames, etc). Just like with any other fabric. 

 

So I see reading comprehension is a wide spread issue on these boards...

 

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It even states in the very first sentence of the article..."ciminalize certain actions related to burning the American flag"

This is very much along the lines of libel, and yelling fire in a theatre.  Free speech is protected, harming others is not. 

People need to stop falling for headlines. 

 

 

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

So I see reading comprehension is a wide spread issue on these boards...

 

 

You've got to think. Putting other people in danger, subjecting them to smoke and flames, blocking streets and burning other people's possessions without permission are all already illegal. Please show me an example of what a "certain action" could be here that is specific to only the flag itself that is not protected by 1st amendment. Whatever you can come up with. 

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

You've got to think. Putting other people in danger, subjecting them to smoke and flames, blocking streets and burning other people's possessions without permission are all already illegal. Please show me an example of what a "certain action" could be here that is specific to only the flag itself that is not protected by 1st amendment. Whatever you can come up with. 

You're not fooling anyone but trying to pretend you cannot think of one scenario where setting your own American flag on fire could put someone else in danger.   Just stop.

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

You're not fooling anyone but trying to pretend you cannot think of one scenario where setting your own American flag on fire could put someone else in danger.   Just stop.

That's already illegal though. Putting others in danger. Understand that? Very simple concept.  I'm asking you once again to come up w a "certain action" that is flag specific and not already illegal. Pointless to ban something that is already illegal. 

Edited 4 minutes ago by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

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