D3UC157 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’m sure Spencer will get his fill of lauding at NCAAs by all fanbases. That seems like the appropriate time. (Steiber was going for 4, can’t imagine a standing ovation for him at PSU) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightweight Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 20 hours ago, SocraTease said: Quite frankly, that is the way I recall it-- that the crowd was rooting for DeSanto and his "vision quest" upset. In fact, I've heard Lee say in an interview that it was one of the only times that the crowd was rooting against him and booing him. Maybe it was because a PA guy (Lee) was going to Iowa (while DeSanto was staying in the state and going to Drexel). Maybe it was because DeSanto was getting after it and it appeared like Lee was stalling (which he was). Lee was spent and barely hanging on. I know I was rooting for DeSanto and the upset at the time. Here's the match: Thanks for the link. I think we can agree to disagree on this one. You were rooting for DeSanto and I was rooting the Lee, the WPIAL guy (plus the history), so we probably both saw/heard what we wanted to see/hear. (I will, however, point out that your guy was wearing the black singlet. Just sayin'...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 10:44 AM, PortaJohn said: Hey fellas. I was in attendance and can confirm there was no standing ovation. Since you were in attendance as was I, how long was Spencer on the mat after his hand was raised? I was on my feet applauding, and before you knew it Spencer was gone and it was on to the next match. The booing before the match I was not a fan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 11:44 AM, Jamie_Taco said: Because most knowledgeable wrestling fans acknowledge greatness, just like Iowa fans did in Iowa City with David Taylor Look at the YouTube video of the end of the match between David Taylor and Nick Moore. The fan's reaction in Iowa City is almost identical to the reaction of the PSU crowd. Your statement is factually incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: Since you were in attendance as was I, how long was Spencer on the mat after his hand was raised? I was on my feet applauding, and before you knew it Spencer was gone and it was on to the next match. The booing before the match I was not a fan of. I Forgot to bring the stop watch. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, PortaJohn said: I Forgot to bring the stop watch. Rookie move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Taco Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 15 hours ago, 82bordeaux said: Look at the YouTube video of the end of the match between David Taylor and Nick Moore. The fan's reaction in Iowa City is almost identical to the reaction of the PSU crowd. Your statement is factually incorrect. Please point out in this video where Iowa fans booed DT. I am hearing claps after he majors Moore in Carver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said: Please point out in this video where Iowa fans booed DT. I am hearing claps after he majors Moore in Carver. I would describe that as light applause, most likely from the PSU fans in attendance. Definitely not a standing ovation from the Iowa fan who you can see are definitely still seated and not clapping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Taco Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I would describe that as light applause, most likely from the PSU fans in attendance. Definitely not a standing ovation from the Iowa fan who you can see are definitely still seated and not clapping. Wrong. I was there and there were plenty of Iowa fans who stood up and clapped, including myself. Same thing happened for Ed the following match. The PSU section was maybe 30 people. 82bordeaux said it was the same response as PSU gave Spencer, so to quote him, his statement is factually incorrect Edited January 30, 2023 by Jamie_Taco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said: Wrong. I was there and there were plenty of Iowa fans who stood up and clapped, including myself. Same thing happened for Ed the following match. The PSU section was maybe 30 people. 82bordeaux said it was the same response as PSU gave Spencer, so to quote him, his statement is factually incorrect Plenty meaning 10% of Iowa fans? From the video it looks like hardly anyone is even clapping that's from the Iowa section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said: Wrong. I was there and there were plenty of Iowa fans who stood up and clapped, including myself. Same thing happened for Ed the following match. The PSU section was maybe 30 people. 82bordeaux said it was the same response as PSU gave Spencer, so to quote him, his statement is factually incorrect I was there and @82bordeauxis correct I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 How many of the Iowa fans were applauding Moore not getting teched or pinned? Gibbons seemed to think that was noteworthy as he mentioned it twice. From that video there is no way to know who was clapping, how many were clapping, or what they were clapping for. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Taco Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I was there and @82bordeauxis correct If you're saying Iowa fans booed DT, you weren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said: If you're saying Iowa fans booed DT, you weren't there. Never claimed to be at Carver. I saw you edited your response to me before i had a chance to respond. I will reaffirm that @82bordeauxis correct that Spencer Lee received the same post match response from fans at the BJC as did David Taylor at Carver based on the YouTube video Bordeaux recommended to watch. Edited January 30, 2023 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Jamie_Taco said: Wrong. I was there and there were plenty of Iowa fans who stood up and clapped, including myself. Same thing happened for Ed the following match. The PSU section was maybe 30 people. 82bordeaux said it was the same response as PSU gave Spencer, so to quote him, his statement is factually incorrect I wasn't talking about booing. There was booing for pretty much every Iowa wrestler. I don't approve. I think it is classless to be honest. What I was talking about is that there was no more of a standing ovation for David Taylor in that video than there was applause after Spencer won. It was pretty much the same. Totally unremarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanGuy Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 This whole thing is crazy. I thought the whole Steveson victory lap last year was weird. It wasn't this longtime great capping off a tremendous career. This was a college kid saying I am not coming back and taking the money. All that is fine but it certainly doesn't need to celebrated. As to Lee, I was at the dual and it never even occurred to me to give a standing ovation. He is a super senior finishing his college wrestling career in a few months. Should Penn State have provided a gift like cities did during the Kareem retirement tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 20 year old Olympic champion comes back to finish off his college career. Nothing to cheer, move along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, JeanGuy said: This whole thing is crazy. I thought the whole Steveson victory lap last year was weird. It wasn't this longtime great capping off a tremendous career. This was a college kid saying I am not coming back and taking the money. All that is fine but it certainly doesn't need to celebrated. As to Lee, I was at the dual and it never even occurred to me to give a standing ovation. He is a super senior finishing his college wrestling career in a few months. Should Penn State have provided a gift like cities did during the Kareem retirement tour? I don't know about that, but I hope Iowa erects a life-size 5'3 statue of Spencer Lee and places it next to that statue of Gable calling for stalling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 There are several moving parts here. I don't think there was much of a cheer for Taylor in Carver. Nothing remotely like Steveson. Which makes sense. 1. Closer, big dual vs ended, not competitive dual. 2. College star vs someone who just won a gold medal for the good old USA. The times that the fans tend to give those types of ovations are at Big Tens and NCAAs. Which makes sense since they aren't home crowds cheering for one team to trounce the other in a head to head dual, and since it's the end of the season, a better place for a summation. I remember Taylor getting a big ovation from the crowd a few weeks later at Big Tens after he beat Moore again there, including from Iowa fans, it was pretty cool. The video is here, they cut it off after a few seconds but it's already starting and building before the tape ends. (This is actually just an excuse to watch the incredible Taylor move at the 6:00 mark, which triggered some of the fullest oohs and aahs I've ever heard at a match.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) On 1/28/2023 at 2:36 PM, D3UC157 said: (Steiber was going for 4, can’t imagine a standing ovation for him at PSU) Streebler had two strikes against him from a PA fan’s perspective: his first “title” had already screwed a highly respected PA product (JO) out of becoming a 3x champ; as a Senior, he posed one of the biggest threats (along w Mitchell Port) to Zain’s title chase. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited January 31, 2023 by lu_alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 this is all so petty... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa in Taiwan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Jamie_Taco said: Please point out in this video where Iowa fans booed DT. I am hearing claps after he majors Moore in Carver. Listen to the beginning of the video, where Taylor quickly secures his first takedown. "The last two matches, 33-2 in favor of Taylor, two technical falls." The applause you heard was for Moore. He avoided the technical fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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