Iran's Nuclear Program

[Caveira]

19 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Right Wingers last 4 years- there wouldn't be any war with Trump

Right Wingers Today- It's a good thing Trump was there to bomb Iran!

 

You're like a hacky 80s comedian. "Black Guys talk like this...white guys sound like this." 

 

 

That's...always been abundantly clear.

 

 

You may be shocked to learn nobody on here has visited recently... though it's on my bucket list for a tourist destination. 

But based on the early reporting, it sounds as if they do. The main one. The one we used 12 MOPs on. 

 

 

Left wingers.  I already posted a vid of Obama Harris Clinton and Biden saying we will bomb Iran if they try to make a Nuke….

 

today don’t bomb them for making Nukes

[scourge165]

Just now, Caveira said:

Left wingers.  I already posted a vid of Obama Harris Clinton and Biden saying we will bomb Iran if they try to make a Nuke….

 

today don’t bomb them for making Nukes

Cool. Lets play that fun little game...

 

Trump said Obama, Biden and Harris would end up bombing Iran because they don't possess his negotiating skills. 

Trump-Ends up being the only one to bomb Iran after pulling out of an agreement with Iran and not being able use his negotiating skills. 

[Caveira]

Just now, scourge165 said:

Cool. Lets play that fun little game...

 

Trump said Obama, Biden and Harris would end up bombing Iran because they don't possess his negotiating skills. 

Trump-Ends up being the only one to bomb Iran after pulling out of an agreement with Iran and not being able use his negotiating skills. 

Do you agree Iran can’t have a nuke?

[scourge165]

18 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Do you agree Iran can’t have a nuke?

Oh Christ...

 

I've posted probably 50 times about what I thought about the bombing and of Iran. 

If you're still asking this stupid ass question, it's rhetorical or to set up another stupid question, so...please just get to it. 

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Oh Christ...

 

I've posted probably 50 times about what I thought about the bombing and of Iran. 

If you're still asking this stupid ass question, it's rhetorical or to set up another stupid question, so...please just get to it. 

They either can have one or cannot from our perspective.   Which is it.  

[scourge165]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They either can have one or cannot from our perspective.   Which is it.  

You were part of a thread in which I was literally arguing they should have used more MOPs if they were not certain they could stop and completely destroy Iran nuclear facilities with this strike.

 

So again, you have to be...just comically stupid or asking this question as a precursor to another question. There's not a chance this is a sincere question. 

 

So just get to it already. This is like the 5th time you've asked something I've addressed probably 20-25 times, including in conversations WITH YOU. 

Edited Wednesday at 04:28 AM by scourge165

[Bigbrog]

I must have missed something...are we at war with anyone??

[Scouts Honor]

10 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Right Wingers last 4 years- there wouldn't be any war with Trump

Right Wingers Today- It's a good thing Trump was there to bomb Iran!

 

You're like a hacky 80s comedian. "Black Guys talk like this...white guys sound like this." 

 

 

That's...always been abundantly clear.

 

 

You may be shocked to learn nobody on here has visited recently... though it's on my bucket list for a tourist destination. 

But based on the early reporting, it sounds as if they do. The main one. The one we used 12 MOPs on. 

 

 

please please go there

wear your gay pride shirt

[red viking]

Here's a simple solution. Recognize that we can't stop our enemies from getting nukes forever. It's a matter of time until they ALL get nukes. 

Maybe instead of trying to control and bomb the hell out of anybody that wants to get similar technology to what we've had since the 1940s, we could mind our own business and stop trying to run the entire world. 

Israel would be at risk but that isn't our problem. They can find another place to have their ethno-theocrcy if needed. I'd be happy to give them northern Florida. 

[Scouts Honor]

lol...

if we aren't at risk now... we would soon be at risk if we stop being the worlds cop.

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Here's a simple solution. Recognize that we can't stop our enemies from getting nukes forever. It's a matter of time until they ALL get nukes. 

Maybe instead of trying to control and bomb the hell out of anybody that wants to get similar technology to what we've had since the 1940s, we could mind our own business and stop trying to run the entire world. 

Israel would be at risk but that isn't our problem. They can find another place to have their ethno-theocrcy if needed. I'd be happy to give them northern Florida. 

Hey hey hey.  Leave Florida out of this 

[mspart]

3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Hey hey hey.  Leave Florida out of this 

Its in the south and run by an R, so he hates it.  Never mind the Jews historically are from Jerusalem area.   

mspart

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, mspart said:

Its in the south and run by an R, so he hates it.  Never mind the Jews historically are from Jerusalem area.   

mspart

The dirty south. Wish they weren't so weak and dumb, so that they wouldn't have lost the civil war. 

[mspart]

I rest my case.

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

7 hours ago, red viking said:

The dirty south. Wish they weren't so weak and dumb, so that they wouldn't have lost the civil war. 

you love yourself some racists? 

[Scouts Honor]

 

[Caveira]

30 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

Dresden ?

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[mspart]

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/americas-top-general-says-strike-on-irans-nuclear-bunker-was-15-years-in-the-making-fordo-gen-dan-caine-defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-united-states-military-operation-midnight-hammer-iran-nuclear-weapons

America's top general says strike on Iran's nuclear bunker was 15 years in the making

Air Force Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters Thursday morning that "Operation Midnight Hammer," the strikes against Iranian nuclear sites, was the culmination of 15 years of intense work by the American military.

And Caine said the bunker-buster bombs used in the attack were tailor-made to destroy Iran's deeply buried Fordo enrichment facility.

“In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed on something going on in Iran,” said Caine, standing alongside Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth for a media briefing on last weekend’s U.S. strikes.

Caine said the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, or DTRA, houses the world's leading experts on deeply buried underground targets.

And the Joint Chiefs chairman offered extraordinary detail of how U.S. forces had spent years preparing for the possibility of dropping bombs on the Fordo site.

Caine said they decided to strike a pair of ventilation shafts as the primary point of entry to Fordo.

The general said the Iranians attempted to cover the shafts with concrete caps in the days before the U.S. strikes.

But Caine said that didn’t do much to slow the 30,000-pound GBU-57 bombs dropped by B-2 stealth bombers.

“The planners had to account for this. They accounted for everything. The cap was forcibly removed by the first weapon, and the main shaft was uncovered,” Caine said. “Weapons two, three, four, five were tasked to enter the main shaft, move down into the complex at greater than 1,000 feet per second, and explode in the mission space. Weapon No. 6 was designed ... as a flex weapon to allow us to cover if one of the preceding jets or one of the preceding weapons did not work.”

Caine said they decided to strike a pair of ventilation shafts as the primary point of entry to Fordo.

The general said the Iranians attempted to cover the shafts with concrete caps in the days before the U.S. strikes.

But Caine said that didn’t do much to slow the 30,000-pound GBU-57 bombs dropped by B-2 stealth bombers.

“The planners had to account for this. They accounted for everything. The cap was forcibly removed by the first weapon, and the main shaft was uncovered,” Caine said. “Weapons two, three, four, five were tasked to enter the main shaft, move down into the complex at greater than 1,000 feet per second, and explode in the mission space. Weapon No. 6 was designed ... as a flex weapon to allow us to cover if one of the preceding jets or one of the preceding weapons did not work.”

The GBU-57 bombs were developed because those officers realized the U.S. didn’t have a weapon capable of destroying Fordo.

The U.S. military worked with the defense industry, tacticians and scientists to develop the bombs and test them over and over.

Caine said the weapons development resulted from supercomputer-intensive modeling and simulation and hundreds of real-world test shots.

This is a good article and describes the 15 year effort of a few folks that concentrated on this fordow target.   The bombs were specifically made fort the target.   Fascinating.   Good read.

msaprt

 

 

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

Fascinating.   Good read.

Fascinating