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Why would the dems not use it against him between 2020 and 2024.    I mean they made up charges and tried their ballz off to get him into prison so why not use that?
 

a) did they not read it?

b) is it nonsense ?

c) worse.  Are a zillion politicians and what not in it?

logical answers only please.  I obviously have not seen them and if Trump is a pedo he should be jailed along with anyone else in the files that is guilty of stuff too.   

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It was always known he was in the Epstein files. 

Just as it's known Clinton and... dozens of others are. Just being in the files isn't evidence he was raping children...


I am still baffled how Trump trying to appoint Acosta in 2017 (maybe 2018) wasn't the end for Trump though. 

You look at ALL the extrapolations people make to connect the Clintons to things. They know X amount of people who've died and therefore, they must all be behind it. But nobody made this VERY clean and straight line connection to Trump trying to put the guy who got Epstein a non-prosecution agreement...into his cabinet?

 

You had a massive prosecution in process against Epstein. You had witnesses prepared to testify and he came in and gave Epstein a deal with very little jail time(only jail) and he got work release and then house arrest, but he did this BEHIND the backs of the prosecutors and he didn't make the victims aware and the most egregious part was he gave blanket immunity for all conspirators, both KNOWN and UNKNOWN.

Then Trump...who was friends with Epstein(yeah, I know, he had a falling out...which seems to happen a lot as evidence by this thread)...

But NOBODY from the right questioned why would Trump give the guy who gave everyone he DIDN'T know about a pass? 

That meant if we DO find out that lets say Bill Clinton, he was down there and he raped a 14-year-old girl, he also has immunity? I'm just using a Democrat as an example so people will see how fk up that is. 

 

Granting full immunity "any potential co-conspirators," just ended that ENTIRE investigation. 

So maybe it's C.
 

My GUESS would be there are SO many names of prominent people who are on the Epstein files, but not evidence they actually did anything. You can prove Trump flew on the...Lolita Express or whatever, he went to the Island, but sooo many people went there. 


It's probably like the Diddy parties(Which...Trump also attended).  But just being AT the parties doesn't mean you were in the back rooms doing the "freak offs," or whatever the hell was going on there. 

 

So basically my guess is it was mutually assured destruction without being able to differentiate between guilt and who was present. 

 

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1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

It was always known he was in the Epstein files. 

Just as it's known Clinton and... dozens of others are. Just being in the files isn't evidence he was raping children...


I am still baffled how Trump trying to appoint Acosta in 2017 (maybe 2018) wasn't the end for Trump though. 

You look at ALL the extrapolations people make to connect the Clintons to things. They know X amount of people who've died and therefore, they must all be behind it. But nobody made this VERY clean and straight line connection to Trump trying to put the guy who got Epstein a non-prosecution agreement...into his cabinet?

 

You had a massive prosecution in process against Epstein. You had witnesses prepared to testify and he came in and gave Epstein a deal with very little jail time(only jail) and he got work release and then house arrest, but he did this BEHIND the backs of the prosecutors and he didn't make the victims aware and the most egregious part was he gave blanket immunity for all conspirators, both KNOWN and UNKNOWN.

Then Trump...who was friends with Epstein(yeah, I know, he had a falling out...which seems to happen a lot as evidence by this thread)...

But NOBODY from the right questioned why would Trump give the guy who gave everyone he DIDN'T know about a pass? 

That meant if we DO find out that lets say Bill Clinton, he was down there and he raped a 14-year-old girl, he also has immunity? I'm just using a Democrat as an example so people will see how fk up that is. 

 

Granting full immunity "any potential co-conspirators," just ended that ENTIRE investigation. 

So maybe it's C.
 

My GUESS would be there are SO many names of prominent people who are on the Epstein files, but not evidence they actually did anything. You can prove Trump flew on the...Lolita Express or whatever, he went to the Island, but sooo many people went there. 


It's probably like the Diddy parties(Which...Trump also attended).  But just being AT the parties doesn't mean you were in the back rooms doing the "freak offs," or whatever the hell was going on there. 

 

So basically my guess is it was mutually assured destruction without being able to differentiate between guilt and who was present. 

 

So you’re saying.   We don’t know for sure.  But he’s  (Trump) probably not guilty of anything?

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17 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

wee has nothing to say... b/c he knows you are right 

Another good question to be is...if Trump ISN'T in the "Epstein files," why hasn't his administration released the documents?

That was a campaign promise. He said he'd do it. What reason is there not to?

 

Because he was clearly on the Island. He was at the parties. I'm NOT saying he was raping girls there(if they were underage, it was rape, it doesn't have to be forcible)... but, he was there. 

 

I don't think this will matter though as I think this will just get chalked up to Musk being upset with Trump. Similar to how  cabinet members who served under him either didn't endorse him were painted as being bitter. Guys like General Kelly or...whoever, it's a long list. 

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5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So you’re saying.   We don’t know for sure.  But he’s  (Trump) probably not guilty of anything?

Not even a little bit.

I'm saying we KNOW Trump was at the Island... ergo, he'd be in the "Epstein files," but merely being present at the Island wouldn't be enough to conclude he was abusing children. 


I don't now how you concluded that I arrived at the "probability" of anyone's guilt. 

 

Irrespective of the Epstein files, I thought the Acosta nomination in and of itself should have been disqualifying(particularly using MAGA standards). 

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22 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Another good question to be is...if Trump ISN'T in the "Epstein files," why hasn't his administration released the documents?

That was a campaign promise. He said he'd do it. What reason is there not to?

 

Because he was clearly on the Island. He was at the parties. I'm NOT saying he was raping girls there(if they were underage, it was rape, it doesn't have to be forcible)... but, he was there. 

 

I don't think this will matter though as I think this will just get chalked up to Musk being upset with Trump. Similar to how  cabinet members who served under him either didn't endorse him were painted as being bitter. Guys like General Kelly or...whoever, it's a long list. 

Because there’s a prince, a wild bill, a killary, and many other world leaders on it. 

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1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Why would the dems not use it against him between 2020 and 2024.    I mean they made up charges and tried their ballz off to get him into prison so why not use that?
 

a) did they not read it?

b) is it nonsense ?

c) worse.  Are a zillion politicians and what not in it?

logical answers only please.  I obviously have not seen them and if Trump is a pedo he should be jailed along with anyone else in the files that is guilty of stuff too.   

Believe me if there was one tiny nugget of incriminating information on Trump the Democrats would have leaked it to the press. It would have been leaked to the press within seconds of finding it. The liberal news would have run in on their stations 24 for 7. Ladies on The View heads would explode in 3 different directions. The internet would melt down. We have found out over time it really doesn't have to be true information for Democrats and the liberal news media to just leak it out.

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2 hours ago, Paul158 said:

Believe me if there was one tiny nugget of incriminating information on Trump the Democrats would have leaked it to the press. It would have been leaked to the press within seconds of finding it. The liberal news would have run in on their stations 24 for 7. Ladies on The View heads would explode in 3 different directions. The internet would melt down. We have found out over time it really doesn't have to be true information for Democrats and the liberal news media to just leak it out.

Strange then, given Trump's history Epstein, Acosta and after promising and now with the authority, he hasn't released it.

Also strange how he wished Epstein's pimp well. 

 

He could just release it and end all doubt and we wouldn't have to just "believe" you and your 'the other side is bad,' argument. 

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I think OP’s question is fair.  And I think does mean that there probably isn’t much if anything more than we already know about Trump in there.

Only possible explanation is that with a lot of the investigations happening during Trump’s first term, maybe they got rid of the evidence.  But if that was the case we wouldn’t find it now and Elon’s “wait and see” comment wouldn’t really come true.

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Trump is definitely in the file, along with other dirty politicians, left and right. There's just not enough evidence to press charges, but we all know what went on there. He didn't go down there to bake chocolate chip cookies. 

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1 hour ago, red viking said:

Trump is definitely in the file, along with other dirty politicians, left and right. There's just not enough evidence to press charges, but we all know what went on there. He didn't go down there to bake chocolate chip cookies. 

Oh yes. There are a lot of names of officials, high ranking politicians and judicial leaders in the files. I believe none of them want this out from either party. Politicians and the likes approval ratings would drop from 15 percent to 2 percent or lower. I'm still surprised no one hasn't leaked something out. These files must be locked in the world's strongest most secure vault ever made.

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5 hours ago, red viking said:

Trump is definitely in the file, along with other dirty politicians, left and right. There's just not enough evidence to press charges, but we all know what went on there. He didn't go down there to bake chocolate chip cookies. 

What did Hillary and bill go there for then?

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16 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said democrats are likely in the file of. Can you read? Why do the wingers ALWAYS deflect? 

So what do you think they went to the Island for?

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29 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So what do you think they went to the Island for?

Don't know anything about your deflections and don't care. Trump is President and Clinton hasn't been for more than a quarter century. 

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1 minute ago, red viking said:

Don't know anything about your deflections and don't care. Trump is President and Clinton hasn't been for more than a quarter century. 

So only the Donald should be prosecuted if he did something ?   

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22 minutes ago, red viking said:

Don't know anything about your deflections and don't care. Trump is President and Clinton hasn't been for more than a quarter century. 

so if trump wasn't there to bake cookies..what do you think he was there for

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9 minutes ago, red viking said:

More deflections. Stupid question and obvious deflection. Trump is President. 

the left: no one is above the law

also the left: it only matters when the president rapes children

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