White Conservatives are the biggest threat

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speaking of dangers to democracy

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/biden-fbi-spied-on-eight-republican-senators-as-part-of-arctic-frost-investigation-grassley-oversight-reveals

[WrestlingRasta]

16 minutes ago, ionel said:

How so? 

 

13 minutes ago, mspart said:

How so Rasta?   I'm interested in what you think on this one.   Not looking to argue, just why you think the above may be true.  What isn't adding up?

mspart

There’s a lot about the story that we are being told that doesn’t add up at all, a lot I’m not too much a fan of.  Much more than I’m interested in getting into all of it in here.  But I’ll zero in on the actions of three “security” personnel standing in the front of the crowd at the time of the shooting. Two with their back to Charlie and one facing Charlie.  Their actions immediately after the shot prove to me two things: 1) their actions were very much coordinated, planned, and very much in a hurry, and 2) their actions and their hurry was not at all to tend to Charlie or to chase any bad guy.   Just that in of itself, even if it was only this (although there is much more) is enough to tell me that the story we are being told is not the real story.  
 

There’s video of these three men. Plain as day.  I urge you to seek it out. And I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But this one stinks to high heaven. 

Edited 18 hours ago by WrestlingRasta

[JimmySpeaks]

So the murderers family lied about him admitting he did it?   Gee thanks mom and dad. 

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[WrestlingRasta]

13 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So the murderers family lied about him admitting he did it?   Gee thanks mom and dad. 

I said nothing of the alleged shooter or his parents. 

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15 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

There’s a lot about the story that we are being told that doesn’t add up at all, a lot I’m not too much a fan of.  Much more than I’m interested in getting into all of it in here.  But I’ll zero in on the actions of three “security” personnel standing in the front of the crowd at the time of the shooting. Two with their back to Charlie and one facing Charlie.  Their actions immediately after the shot prove to me two things: 1) their actions were very much coordinated, planned, and very much in a hurry, and 2) their actions and their hurry was not at all to tend to Charlie or to chase any bad guy.   Just that in of itself, even if it was only this (although there is much more) is enough to tell me that the story we are being told is not the real story.  
 

There’s video of these three men. Plain as day.  I urge you to seek it out. And I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But this one stinks to high heaven. 

I wouldn’t be shocked if there was some funny business with Kirk’s murder, but if so I’d doubt his own security personnel were involved.

Even assuming it was Robinson, I specifically said “motivated by the left.”  I’m not convinced Robinson was actually a “leftist,” but gay/trans rights is certainly a left position if that was his motive.

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[Doublehalf]

16 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

There’s a lot about the story that we are being told that doesn’t add up at all, a lot I’m not too much a fan of.  Much more than I’m interested in getting into all of it in here.  But I’ll zero in on the actions of three “security” personnel standing in the front of the crowd at the time of the shooting. Two with their back to Charlie and one facing Charlie.  Their actions immediately after the shot prove to me two things: 1) their actions were very much coordinated, planned, and very much in a hurry, and 2) their actions and their hurry was not at all to tend to Charlie or to chase any bad guy.   Just that in of itself, even if it was only this (although there is much more) is enough to tell me that the story we are being told is not the real story.  
 

There’s video of these three men. Plain as day.  I urge you to seek it out. And I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But this one stinks to high heaven. 

There's also a few other things that stink and don't come off as authentic or tha makes sense..

1. It was said the shooter prior to getting on the roof assembled the rifle and was able to hit tha shot without sighting in the scope at all which is nuts (on a rifle said to be from WWII no less) then after the shot, was able to disassemble the rifle and climb down with it in his backpack. 
 

Then he reassembled the rifle after getting off the roof and wrapped it in a towel to be found near the crime scene where police were crawling all over... There was actually someone that was a hun expert on social media (I think Joe Rogan spoke about it) that went through the process of assembling and disassembling the rifle and how there is no way he would have been off the roof that quickly given his adrenaline rush after the shot.

Additionally, in the security footage where it was supposed to be in the backpack it was demonstrated a long part of the barrel would have been sticking out and would not fit.

2. If anyone has paid any attention to how Erika Kirk has been acting recently it's no in line with someone at all mourning the loss of a husband but I'll still give the benefit of the doubt to her as incredibly strange as it is with the way she's acting and going about life. Also she was in trumps beauty pageants in 2012 and was rumored to do casting for him/trump organization. 
 

3. Then you have all the random messages and writing on bullets which is just very strange and convenient along with the trans boyfriend text messages that don't sound typical at all of someone that age lining up with the messages on the casings... 

Also on Joe Rogan the guy that got initially in custody was some kind of agitator that as soon as the shot was fired the guy pulled his pants down and claimed he did it? I guess he was also at the Boston bombing and some other major event and no one was ever able to interview him because he was designated to be in possession of child porn? 

There is just a ton of weird stuff about this all around that makes no sense at all...

[ionel]

20 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

There's also a few other things that stink and don't come off as authentic or tha makes sense..

1. It was said the shooter prior to getting on the roof assembled the rifle and was able to hit tha shot without sighting in the scope at all which is nuts (on a rifle said to be from WWII no less) then after the shot, was able to disassemble the rifle and climb down with it in his backpack. 

How do you know he didn't sight in the scope?  He had said prior that he had hit this distance on the range (or elsewhere) so sounds like it was sighted in.  

Edited 1 hour ago by ionel

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i agree, this behavior is 

NOT IN LINE

with suffereing a genocide 

 

[jross]

It is good to think critically about the Kirk shooting.

That same level of thinking should be applied elsewhere!

So many conspiracies... so little skepticism depending on the bias.

[Doublehalf]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

How do you know he didn't sight in the scope?  He had said prior that he had hit this distance on the range (or elsewhere) so sounds like it was sighted in. 

He could sight in the scope prior but then he had everything being jostled around in a backpack and to theoretically disassemble it and reassemble it on the rooftop prior to taking the shot and not re-sighting it in is assanine according to other gun experts including the one on Joe Rogan.

[ionel]

Just now, Doublehalf said:

He could sight in the scope prior but then he had everything being jostled around in a backpack and to theoretically disassemble it and reassemble it on the rooftop prior to taking the shot and not re-sighting it in is assanine according to other gun experts including the one on Joe Rogan.

doubtful 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

44 minutes ago, ionel said:

How do you know he didn't sight in the scope?  He had said prior that he had hit this distance on the range (or elsewhere) so sounds like it was sighted in.  

There is a lot of stuff in his previous post based on hearsay and other conspiracy theories. My understanding, also based on hearsay, is that the type of "disassembling" that he did with the rifle can be done extremely quickly.  It wasn't like he was field stripping it.

Edited 32 minutes ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

There is a lot of stuff in his previous post based on hearsay and other conspiracy theories. My understanding, also based on hearsay, is that the type of "disassembling" that he did with the rifle can be done extremely quickly.  It wasn't like he was field stripping it.

If the scope is attached to the barrel and you detach the barrel from the stock and reattach then how would this affect the sighting?   Even detaching the scope(which you wouldn't need to do) is a very precise reattchment.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

If the scope is attached to the barrel and you detach the barrel from the stock and reattach then how would this affect the sighting?   Even detaching the scope(which you wouldn't need to do) is a very precise reattchment.  

I wouldn't think it would.  I was just saying that he likely wasn't completely field stripping the weapon, as many of the theorists seem to suggest.  

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I wouldn't think it would.  I was just saying that he likely wasn't completely field stripping the weapon, as many of the theorists seem to suggest.  

exactly 

[Gene Mills Fan]

20 minutes ago, ionel said:

If the scope is attached to the barrel and you detach the barrel from the stock and reattach then how would this affect the sighting?   Even detaching the scope(which you wouldn't need to do) is a very precise reattchment.  

This is correct  the sight mounts to the barrel  and takedown guns are designed with bearing stop surfaces and detach or detent pins that allow them to be reliable after disassembly and reassembly. However a "grand fathers" mauser wooden stock component would not fit in that back pack (unless it is some military folding stock and a legal minimum barrel length would be 24"  after it out of the stock. BECAUSE THEY SAID BOLT ACTION. My initial thoughts 

however this lever action would fit in the back pack

 

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more pic

[Offthemat]

It takes removing/replacing two screws to separate/assemble the barreled action while the scope remains intact and sighted in on a Mauser with a sporterized stock.