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Genocide scholars around the world, including those in Israel, have reached a near consensus: Yes.

Israeli Genocide Scholar, Schmuel Lederman, rejected the genocide label last year. Now, he's changed his mind. The evidence is now undeniable. 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-is-committing-genocide-in-gaza

Israeli scholar Shmuel Lederman of Open University of Israel "opposed the genocide label" until Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government flouted the International Court of Justice's January 2024 order to prevent genocide by allowing emergency aid into Gaza and halting top officials "incendiary language on Palestinians." Israeli leaders have called Palestinians "human animals" and "Amalek"—an ancient enemy in the Hebrew Bible who Israelites were commanded to exterminate.

Lederman also began to see his government as genocidal after the Israel Defense Forces seized control of the Rafah crossing last year, cutting off the only humanitarian aid route as international experts warned famine was imminent, and as analysts warned the true death toll in Gaza could ultimately be close to 200,000.

"For me personally, the combination of this and the continued destruction of Gaza made the turn from harsh criticism of the crimes Israel is committing in Gaza and warnings that we are getting close to that place, to the perception that the cumulative effect of what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocidal in every sense," said Lederman on the social media platform X on Thursday. "I think the second half of 2024 is the point at which a consensus emerged among genocide researchers (as well as the human rights community) that this was genocide. Those who may have still had doubts—I estimate that they have dissipated following Israel's actions since the cease-fire was broken."

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3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’m not sure.  But if it’s not, it’s a hell of a lot closer to a genocide than white farmers in South Africa.

Not sure can argue with that.

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30 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

What do you think “from the river to the sea means”?

It means they want them out, not necessarily killed.  “86’d”

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1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You might want to read the Hamas Covenant. 

From the river to the sea is also in the official Likud platform, so I guess that does mean Israel is committing genocide after all, right?

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8 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

From the river to the sea is also in the official Likud platform, so I guess that does mean Israel is committing genocide after all, right?

Glad you agree that Oct 7,  2023 was genocide. 

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1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Isn’t it possible both sides are committing genocide?

Isn't it possible that some people have found their new favorite word and just spew it all over the place in order to somehow make a political point???  How about war SUCKS!!  Innocent people die during war which is the main reason it SUCKS!  It is absolutely laughable to say Isreal is committing genocide when if they truly wanted to, they could wipe the Gaza strip off the face of the earth in no time at all. 

But hey...it's way easier to be intellectually lazy and try to earn emotion points by throwing the word genocide around all because somehow "Orange man bad".

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13 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Isn't it possible that some people have found their new favorite word and just spew it all over the place in order to somehow make a political point???  How about war SUCKS!!  Innocent people die during war which is the main reason it SUCKS!  It is absolutely laughable to say Isreal is committing genocide when if they truly wanted to, they could wipe the Gaza strip off the face of the earth in no time at all. 

But hey...it's way easier to be intellectually lazy and try to earn emotion points by throwing the word genocide around all because somehow "Orange man bad".

About 10x as many gazan children murdered as TOTAL Israelis so far. 

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8 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

you guys understand the the entire palestinian design is the genocide of Jews, right?

and yet here we are. 

 

They understand. They just choose to ignore that part.  

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50 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

But you said it was only 86ing?  Why the change ? 

Just asking a question.

48 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

you guys understand the the entire palestinian design is the genocide of Jews, right?

and yet here we are. 

 

False.

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1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

Isn't it possible that some people have found their new favorite word and just spew it all over the place in order to somehow make a political point???  How about war SUCKS!!  Innocent people die during war which is the main reason it SUCKS!  It is absolutely laughable to say Isreal is committing genocide when if they truly wanted to, they could wipe the Gaza strip off the face of the earth in no time at all. 

But hey...it's way easier to be intellectually lazy and try to earn emotion points by throwing the word genocide around all because somehow "Orange man bad".

If we’re going to nitpick the definition of genocide, then the October 7th terror attack was not genocide.

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