Raney commitment tomorrow

[Truzzcat]

These two can really change a program. I am not going to lock them in for national titles but they are both going to score a lot of points year 1 at nationals I believe. They are both pinners and seem to differentiate in weight enough to where they are both going to be optimized at two different weights.

List:
Ohio state
Iowa
Oklahoma state
Nebraska
Illinois

I think its probably Iowa or Illinois reports a few weeks ago sounded like it was Iowa. If they go to Iowa that would be one of the better on paper classes ever. I believe it would be 1,4,5,8 on willies big board going off the p4p list.

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

I think its probably Iowa or Illinois reports a few weeks ago sounded like it was Iowa. If they go to Iowa that would be one of the better on paper classes ever. I believe it would be 1,4,5,8 on willies big board going off the p4p list.

I'm guessing there will be two unexpected pop up showers in Stillwater tomorrow and it will be a little rainy

Edited 6 hours ago by PortaJohn

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, Truzzcat said:

These two can really change a program. I am not going to lock them in for national titles but they are both going to score a lot of points year 1 at nationals I believe. They are both pinners and seem to differentiate in weight enough to where they are both going to be optimized at two different weights.

List:
Ohio state
Iowa
Oklahoma state
Nebraska
Illinois

I think its probably Iowa or Illinois reports a few weeks ago sounded like it was Iowa. If they go to Iowa that would be one of the better on paper classes ever. I believe it would be 1,4,5,8 on willies big board going off the p4p list.

Well...

As of my last perusal of the Iowa boards, they seem to have reason to strongly believe that a huge Oklahoma State NIL came in at the last moment and changed the twins commitment.  People are not pleased!

[Truzzcat]

Just now, PortaJohn said:

I'm guessing there will be two unexpected pop up showers in Stillwater tomorrow and it will be a little rainy

I'm just not sure where they fit in there. Unless they can both hold 125,133. They obviously have had super competitive matches with Jax in the past but I am not sure that holds true now. I also don't know if they can beat vega that would be an insane match.

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Well...

As of my last perusal of the Iowa boards, they seem to have reason to strongly believe that a huge Oklahoma State NIL came in at the last moment and changed the twins commitment.  People are not pleased!

Maybe in the future send more guys down to Mexico to compete?

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Well...

As of my last perusal of the Iowa boards, they seem to have reason to strongly believe that a huge Oklahoma State NIL came in at the last moment and changed the twins commitment.  People are not pleased!

Interesting I always saw them as 133,141 maybe even 141,149 but Jayden is holding 121 at least until worlds so maybe he can stay at 125 and Jordyn can go whatever weight Jax is not occupying.

[VakAttack]

2 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Interesting I always saw them as 133,141 maybe even 141,149 but Jayden is holding 121 at least until worlds so maybe he can stay at 125 and Jordyn can go whatever weight Jax is not occupying.

My understanding is the vision from the coaching staff has one of them holding 125, which seems foolish.

 

He said bitterly.

Edited 6 hours ago by VakAttack

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Interesting I always saw them as 133,141 maybe even 141,149 but Jayden is holding 121 at least until worlds so maybe he can stay at 125 and Jordyn can go whatever weight Jax is not occupying.

They also would like to to fit Sergio Vega in somewhere, I would assume.

[PortaJohn]

4 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Jordyn can go whatever weight Jax is not occupying

Poppa Forrest still has a few inches on his son.  Maybe they believe he might hit a late growth spurt...

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

They also would like to to fit Sergio Vega in somewhere, I would assume.

Sergio seems like he could be a 149 he is really skinny.

[Winners Circle]

I know OSU is taking the "bring as many studs in and let them figure it out" approach, same things PSU has done and made them what they are. But OSU also has Ronnie Ramirez coming in at 125/133, who's an ultra-recruit himself. 

[Wrasslin]

9 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

I know OSU is taking the "bring as many studs in and let them figure it out" approach, same things PSU has done and made them what they are. But OSU also has Ronnie Ramirez coming in at 125/133, who's an ultra-recruit himself. 

As they should . . . 

I'm pretty high on Ramirez- I think he needs a RS year and to put on some muscle- but he's got a lot of ability. Also, Rocklin Zinkin (2026) committed and continues to improve (just beat Ignasio Villasenor for U17 3rd place and if not for one sequence, would have beaten Grey Burnett also) - it'll be crowded. 

For what it's worth, I'm partial to California kids sooo... (I'm pretty sure that came out wrong!) 

[Winners Circle]

5 minutes ago, Wrasslin said:

As they should . . . 

I'm pretty high on Ramirez- I think he needs a RS year and to put on some muscle- but he's got a lot of ability. Also, Rocklin Zinkin (2026) committed and continues to improve (just beat Ignasio Villasenor for U17 3rd place and if not for one sequence, would have beaten Grey Burnett also) - it'll be crowded. 

For what it's worth, I'm partial to California kids sooo... (I'm pretty sure that came out wrong!) 

Me too. I really like his skill set.

[Truzzcat]

Ramirez wrestled Knox very well outside of on the mat from Neutral it was very competitive.

[Wrasslin]

47 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Interesting I always saw them as 133,141 maybe even 141,149 but Jayden is holding 121 at least until worlds so maybe he can stay at 125 and Jordyn can go whatever weight Jax is not occupying.

That's what the Cortez twins (Cornell commits) had to do at Gilroy this last year because Moses Mendoza (great pickup for U of M) was there and beats both of them. 

Interestingly enough, all three above won 2025 state championships at their prospective weights. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Wrasslin

[Dark Energy]

I saw mention of a huge individual backer for OK State.  Is that true?  What are the details?

[cowcards]

1 minute ago, Dark Energy said:

I saw mention of a huge individual backer for OK State.  Is that true?  What are the details?

The guy doing National Duals.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/2025/04/02/college-wrestling-national-duals-invitational-announces-eligible-teams-1-million-purse-chad-richison/82746314007/

[LemonPie]

53 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

I'm just not sure where they fit in there. Unless they can both hold 125,133. They obviously have had super competitive matches with Jax in the past but I am not sure that holds true now. I also don't know if they can beat vega that would be an insane match.

Jax should try to keep growing.  Seems to wrestle better when not sucked down.  Cowboy bulkjob lineup. 

 

125- Villasenor/Rmairez

133- Raney

141- Raney

149- Vega

157- Forrest

165- Robideau 

174- Lockett

184- Ryder

197- Merrill

Hwt- Ross

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

I saw mention of a huge individual backer for OK State.  Is that true?  What are the details?

The Paycom guy

[MNRodent]

16 minutes ago, LemonPie said:

Jax should try to keep growing.  

I tried really hard for 6' when I was a kid. Never happened despite my best efforts.

[Dark Energy]

Pretty Nice for OK State and also pretty cool that he is giving money for national events.  Good stuff.  Does create a severe competitive advantage in today’s NIL era.  Hoping he continues to show love for D1 as a whole too.

[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, MNRodent said:

I tried really hard for 6' when I was a kid. Never happened despite my best efforts.

Forgot to stretch? 

[ionel]

22 minutes ago, LemonPie said:

Jax should try to keep growing.  Seems to wrestle better when not sucked down.  Cowboy bulkjob lineup. 

 

125- Villasenor/Rmairez

133- Raney

141- Raney

149- Vega

157- Forrest

165- Robideau 

174- Lockett

184- Ryder

197- Merrill

Hwt- Ross

No one has mentioned where they fit on the dodgeball and sand volleyball teams.  Do you play em on the same side or split them up?    

Edited 5 hours ago by ionel

[OMW]

If T. Boone Pickens were still alive, Okie State would have a lot more money to help the program.

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, OMW said:

If T. Boone Pickens were still alive, Okie State would have a lot more money to help the program.

Why?  What did T Boone ever do for wrestling?  Also we've been thru the whole "okie" thing many times on here.