Anyone hear something crazy recently?

[Gus]

Snyder is a scumbag and ought to be ashamed of himself. He has been a prominent figure in FCA wrestling for a long time and has preached Christ to young athletes. This is a disgusting act for a Christian man to be partaking in and he ought to be ashamed. 

[bnwtwg]

Jagger off the top rope with an all-timer

 

 

[Hammerlock3]

And before someone breaks the work, "hypocrisy" would be if Snyder said he shouldn't be punished for this but other people should be. Erecting a moral standard that you yourself fail at is not hypocrisy. 

[Winners Circle]

Just now, Gus said:

Snyder is a scumbag and ought to be ashamed of himself. He has been a prominent figure in FCA wrestling for a long time and has preached Christ to young athletes. This is a disgusting act for a Christian man to be partaking in and he ought to be ashamed. 

1. Let's let God and Jesus decide if the guy's a scumbag. We're all sinners. 
2. It's a disgusting act for any man to partake in, regardless of religious affiliation. 
3. I don't want to speak for the man, but I'm sure he's ashamed. 

[Hammerlock3]

3 minutes ago, Gus said:

Snyder is a scumbag and ought to be ashamed of himself. He has been a prominent figure in FCA wrestling for a long time and has preached Christ to young athletes. This is a disgusting act for a Christian man to be partaking in and he ought to be ashamed. 

Do you think he's not ashamed of himself? If he's not in absolute hell i'd be amazed.

[bnwtwg]

2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Snyder... Erecting

Unfortunately that's what started this whole snafu

[Gus]

Just now, Hammerlock3 said:

Do you think he's not ashamed of himself? If he's not in absolute hell i'd be amazed.

I surely hope so. 

 

2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

And before someone breaks the work, "hypocrisy" would be if Snyder said he shouldn't be punished for this but other people should be. Erecting a moral standard that you yourself fail at is not hypocrisy. 

It is hypocrisy when you preach to young athletes the importance of living a life that is honoring to God and then you solicit a prostitute. That is actually the definition of hypocrisy. 

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Gus said:

Snyder is a scumbag and ought to be ashamed of himself. He has been a prominent figure in FCA wrestling for a long time and has preached Christ to young athletes. This is a disgusting act for a Christian man to be partaking in and he ought to be ashamed. 

If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t he lead the Bible study group that a lot of the PSU wrestlers attend?

[PortaJohn]

Just now, bnwtwg said:

Unfortunately that's what started this whole snafu

Man, I really want to respond to you with, "too soon" but I will quietly protest your insertions on this matter

[Gus]

4 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

1. Let's let God and Jesus decide if the guy's a scumbag. We're all sinners. 
2. It's a disgusting act for any man to partake in, regardless of religious affiliation. 
3. I don't want to speak for the man, but I'm sure he's ashamed. 

I don't want to get into a theological discussion on this board but suffice to say that Christian's are held to a higher standard as ambassadors from Jesus Christ. Additionally, Christian's are told to judge over and over again in the Bible. The only time that Christians are not told to judge is that we are not to judge as hypocrites. 

[Gus]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t he lead the Bible study group that a lot of the PSU wrestlers attend?

I believe so. If you just type in Kyle Snyder FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes) you can see all kinds of work that he has done at FCA camps, videos, etc. 

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t he lead the Bible study group that a lot of the PSU wrestlers attend?

 

1 minute ago, Gus said:

I don't want to get into a theological discussion on this board but suffice to say that Christian's are held to a higher standard as ambassadors from Jesus Christ. Additionally, Christian's are told to judge over and over again in the Bible. The only time that Christians are not told to judge is that we are not to judge as hypocrites. 

Maybe he's a Joshua 2 kind of guy

[Winners Circle]

Just now, Gus said:

I don't want to get into a theological discussion on this board but suffice to say that Christian's are held to a higher standard as ambassadors from Jesus Christ. Additionally, Christian's are told to judge over and over again in the Bible. The only time that Christians are not told to judge is that we are not to judge as hypocrites. 

I am by no means an expert on the Bible, so I'm not going to pretend to be. But I AM a follower and believer of Christ. My whole Christian life I have been told to not judge others because it's not our place. Only God and Jesus have that power and right to do. So I'm not going to say you're wrong, but this is not my experience. 

[bnwtwg]

Penn State may have Happy Valley but Columbus has a Happy Ending

[skandar]

lol wow shocking. Another over the top Christian hypocrite. 

[Dogbone]

13 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

And before someone breaks the work, "hypocrisy" would be if Snyder said he shouldn't be punished for this but other people should be. Erecting a moral standard that you yourself fail at is not hypocrisy. 

hy·poc·ri·sy

/həˈpäkrəsē/

noun

noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

1. the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

[BarSeries]

Lol JD Rader really concerned about Final X

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, Dogbone said:

hy·poc·ri·sy

/həˈpäkrəsē/

noun

noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

1. the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

fair enough but i don't think thats a useful definition. Its like saying if you punch someone you are a hypocrite unless you like being punched. Also by this definition is snyder a hyporcrite forever?  Really not hungry for a semantic argument just my take. 

[bnwtwg]

2 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Lol JD Rader really concerned about Final X

more like Final XXX

[1032004]

38 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

It seems like part of a larger trafficking sting he got picked up for solicitation. I would be shocked if this was anything more than Snyder being a scumbag who cheats on his wife at his friend's wedding and used a prostitution service to do so. I doubt he was involved in trafficking at any level other than being a John

Is it still cheating if you hire a prostitute but they don’t actually provide the service? 

[PortaJohn]

4 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Lol JD Rader really concerned about Final X

As am I.  Want to send our best possible team to Worlds  

[Gus]

2 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

I am by no means an expert on the Bible, so I'm not going to pretend to be. But I AM a follower and believer of Christ. My whole Christian life I have been told to not judge others because it's not our place. Only God and Jesus have that power and right to do. So I'm not going to say you're wrong, but this is not my experience. 

The Bible says not to judge hypocritically (Mat 7:1) and not to judge over matters of Christian liberty of personal preference (Romans 14 talks about this). But the Bible does tell believers to let your love abound in all knowledge and judgement (Phil 1:9), he who is spiritual judgeth all things (1Co 2:15), judge not according to appearance but judge righteous judgement (John 7:24). Read 1 Corinthians 5 where the man in the assembly was living immorally and the Apostle Paul told them to kick the man out of the assembly until he repents and changes his ways. And by the way, it worked. The man repented and was restored in 2 Corinthians 2. Most evangelicals take Matt 7:1 and make it a blanket statement against any judgement regardless of what it is but that is taking the verse out of context and twisting it to fit an agenda. Christians are to judge other Christians with righteous judgement with the intent of restoration. Christians are not to judge hypocritically. 

[Ferrignohh]

I recently had a family member get caught up in this exact same scenario.  All moral judgements and ethical questions aside, KS is going to end up registering on a list that will more than likely prevent him from being around a lot if places.  I would imagine clinics, schools, and you tournaments are out of the equation.  Depending on what USA wrestling decides to do he may not be able to compete at SR level events.  Is there any precedent for this scenario?  How does NLWC respond?

Effectively, he has torpedoed his wrestling career for the foreseeable future unless he has some Cornell level lawyers in his back pocket.  Truly a disappointing development.   

[Winners Circle]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

The Bible says not to judge hypocritically (Mat 7:1) and not to judge over matters of Christian liberty of personal preference (Romans 14 talks about this). But the Bible does tell believers to let your love abound in all knowledge and judgement (Phil 1:9), he who is spiritual judgeth all things (1Co 2:15), judge not according to appearance but judge righteous judgement (John 7:24). Read 1 Corinthians 5 where the man in the assembly was living immorally and the Apostle Paul told them to kick the man out of the assembly until he repents and changes his ways. And by the way, it worked. The man repented and was restored in 2 Corinthians 2. Most evangelicals take Matt 7:1 and make it a blanket statement against any judgement regardless of what it is but that is taking the verse out of context and twisting it to fit an agenda. Christians are to judge other Christians with righteous judgement with the intent of restoration. Christians are not to judge hypocritically. 

Appreciate this. 

[RandolphTJones]

I feel bad for his 2 young children.