Tech fall % at us open is ridiculous

[Caveira]

Counted a few weighs.  Upwards of 75% of all matches end in tech fall or fall.  I didn’t count ff.   
 

that is just wrong….  Why is it such a high %????? 

[MPhillips]

Just now, Caveira said:

Counted a few weighs.  Upwards of 75% of all matches end in tech fall or fall.  I didn’t count ff.   
 

that is just wrong….  Why is it such a high %????? 

OPEN...

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

OPEN...

That accounts for maybe the early rounds.  But 75% isn’t high to you ?   

[NotThatDave]

15 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Counted a few weighs.  Upwards of 75% of all matches end in tech fall or fall.  I didn’t count ff.   
 

that is just wrong….  Why is it such a high %????? 

Because freestyle is stupid.

[Husker]

Curious how many were leg laces? I saw a few of them on highlight/recap videos. Get a leg lace going and the match is over. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

17 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Counted a few weighs.  Upwards of 75% of all matches end in tech fall or fall.  I didn’t count ff.   
 

that is just wrong….  Why is it such a high %????? 

Ikr? Why can't we go back to an era with 0-0 scores culminating in arbitrary ball grab/clinches. Matches are too quick and there's just too much damn scoring these days. Make it less exciting!!

[Truzzcat]

I would guess a combination of weights being top heavy, guys quitting mentally on the backside or guys getting fatigued and quitting in the match. Freestyle allows you to exploit momentary lapses in effort far more than folk does i.e. getting a lace or trap arm off a takedown.

[mspart]

The tech fall criteria did not change when they went to a 2 point takedown.   So it was harder to get a tech fall unless you could gut or lace your way into oblivion. 

mspart

[Winners Circle]

48 minutes ago, Caveira said:

That accounts for maybe the early rounds.  But 75% isn’t high to you ?   

Not really.

[Coastal]

That number will drop substantially at the WTT as one has to qualify for that event.   

 

Top end wrestlers didn't break a sweat until the quarters or semis in most cases.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

OPEN...

Did first two weights of men’s senior worlds last year.  50% tf/falls.   Still a ton.  

[Coastal]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Did first two weights of men’s senior worlds last year.  50% tf/falls.   Still a ton.  

There's a lot of countries at Worlds that wouldn't place in the top 50 in the stronger countries.

[MPhillips]

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Did first two weights of men’s senior worlds last year.  50% tf/falls.   Still a ton.  

I appreciate you keeping me abreast of the situation. I really don't care though...

[alex1fly]

2 hours ago, NotThatDave said:

Because freestyle is stupid.

Come on. Just prevent the leg lace, it's that simple. Then fart on the ref but blame it on your opponent so the ref gives you preferential treatment.

I kid. But damn if refs don't get a lot of sway in freestyle.

[Eagle26]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

The tech fall criteria did not change when they went to a 2 point takedown.   So it was harder to get a tech fall unless you could gut or lace your way into oblivion. 

mspart

And when they added multiple turns and when they added step outs. Techs are a lot easier to come by in Freestyle. I love almost everything about the current freestyle rules, but I would personally like to see us go back to one turn and then you have to change holds. We got to see a lot more great wrestling IMO

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

And when they added multiple turns and when they added step outs. Techs are a lot easier to come by in Freestyle. I love almost everything about the current freestyle rules, but I would personally like to see us go back to one turn and then you have to change holds. We got to see a lot more great wrestling IMO

I honestly don’t care what they do with their product as long as they stop trying to corrupt the folkstyle product.