Was Malcolm x talking about any of our message boards white liberals?

[Caveira]

 

[PortaJohn]

A) Is this necessary?

B)  The 3 posters on here (Trip, Uncle B, & RV) seem far from the fox metaphor.  They're all open and consistent on their beliefs and far from deceitful.

[Scouts Honor]

they believed the fox 

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[ionel]

... what if it's a red fox a rock fox or a trip fox?   

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

they believed the fox 

You know he's not praising conservatives here, right? He's criticizing liberals for being conservative.

Also, I would never call myself a liberal.

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lol

he isn't praising conservatives... but he is not criticizing liberals for being conservative

he is calling liberals full of crap.

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[Gene Mills Fan]

Where Is Rock L? molting season? 

[uncle bernard]

54 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

lol

he isn't praising conservatives... but he is not criticizing liberals for being conservative

he is calling liberals full of crap.

because they're secretly conservative and not a true ally of black liberation.

he calls conservatives the "wolf" and liberals the "fox." the reason the fox is more dangerous is because it hides the fact that it is a predator like the wolf. 

no wonder you believe the things you do. you're functionally illiterate. this is 4th grade reading level stuff.

[jross]

3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

You know he's not praising conservatives here, right? He's criticizing liberals for being conservative.

The statement that Malcolm X criticizes liberals for being conservative is wrong.

 

In "Message to the Grassroots" (link), X says there are no longer Democrat or Republican parties, only “liberal” and “conservative” camps, both using Black people for power: “Among whites here in America, the political teams are no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites… are divided into ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ camps.” X adds that “The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful.” Liberals are “foxes,” conservatives “wolves,” each manipulating Black voters, not one acting like the other.  

 

Malcom doesn't praise any political parties in that speech... nor in "The Ballot or the Bullet" (link).  

 

Tangent: Conservatism doesn’t mean racist ideology. In the 1960s, racists in both parties... Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives (even progressives, moderates, etc.) used conservative ideas like limited government and states’ rights to uphold racism, but racism IS NOT a conservative principle.

Tangent2: While more republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than democrats, this was split by region rather than politics.  

 

Tangent3: The Ballot or the Bullet" is powerful...

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5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

because they're secretly conservative and not a true ally of black liberation.

he calls conservatives the "wolf" and liberals the "fox." the reason the fox is more dangerous is because it hides the fact that it is a predator like the wolf. 

no wonder you believe the things you do. you're functionally illiterate. this is 4th grade reading level stuff.

i have another video for you.

“The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man.

this was a few years before LBJ said

we'll have those ($(*^(*$^*(& voting for us for 200 years 

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in other words

democrats are liars and well as predators

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im not finding the vid i want... this provides another piece of the pie about the liberals 

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5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

because they're secretly conservative and not a true ally of black liberation.

he calls conservatives the "wolf" and liberals the "fox." the reason the fox is more dangerous is because it hides the fact that it is a predator like the wolf. 

no wonder you believe the things you do. you're functionally illiterate. this is 4th grade reading level stuff.

liberals are 'secretly' conservative

lol

 

[Offthemat]

Clarence Thomas referred to them in his book as rattlesnakes and water moccasins.

[jross]

Republican Eisenhower drove the 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts with Northern bipartisanship. Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) pushed back. Democrats, with small 1957 and large 1960 House/Senate majorities, saw LBJ and Russell (Dixiecrat) gut the acts before they were passed. The Black voters gave ~two-thirds Democratic Congress majority from ’58–’63, and JFK did little to deliver on his promises.  After JFK died and civil rights pressure continued to increase, LBJ again worked with Russell.  LBJ was racist (words, votes against anti-lynching bills...) and "looks" like he chased power over principle.  LBJ did pass the 1964 civil rights act... but not without criticism of its inadequacies for Black human rights.  

Trump is like LBJ in some ways... a bitter tree may bear sweet fruit.