Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs

[jross]

I support the man in the arena... over the bystander and conformists.

[Scouts Honor]

why have you never posted about the tariffs other countries put on American goods? 

[red viking]

31 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

why have you never posted about the tariffs other countries put on American goods? 

Well, they were minor before but good pt. They are now escalating big time so thats really hurting our exports. Many u.s. manufacturers are hurting now. Even automakers because they are importing parts from overseas. Thx for bringing that up. 

[Scouts Honor]

so it's trumps fault, we weren't hurting before right? 

hmmm 

we should just lie back and pay for it right... all the tariffs up until now 

[ionel]

Is it true rv just bought a couple new Audi Q8s before the price increase?  

Paid with gold.  

Edited Monday at 08:49 PM by ionel

[red viking]

30 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so it's trumps fault, we weren't hurting before right? 

hmmm 

we should just lie back and pay for it right... all the tariffs up until now 

Us getting "screwed over" by countries like Canada is more trump kool-aid. Keep drinking it. 

[billyhoyle]

10 hours ago, Paul158 said:

I have a 2006 F150. It runs like a champ. It has 270,000 miles on it. Original engine and transmission. (not rebuilt). I get 17 to 18 miles per gallon on the highway. To replace it with a new F150 is 50K to 75K.

In a few years you can buy that car a beer. 

The price of cars going up probably won't have that huge of an impact on people since a car is something most people buy infrequently, and there is no real need to get a new car unless your old one is a piece of crap. 

However, the impact will be on car dealerships and domestic employees of the car companies that get laid off. I have to imagine the vast majority of these people are Trump supporters. In the long term, tariffs would bring jobs to the car manufacturing sector at the expense of higher prices and lower quality for consumers. I'm not sure how the employees who get laid off or can't sell cars while the supply chains are being redone will feel about it though. 

Edited Monday at 10:41 PM by billyhoyle

[JimmySpeaks]

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-auto-tariffs-union-workers-0de3e6f328cae87ded425380d0462516#

[red viking]

On 3/31/2025 at 5:40 PM, billyhoyle said:

In a few years you can buy that car a beer. 

The price of cars going up probably won't have that huge of an impact on people since a car is something most people buy infrequently, and there is no real need to get a new car unless your old one is a piece of crap. 

However, the impact will be on car dealerships and domestic employees of the car companies that get laid off. I have to imagine the vast majority of these people are Trump supporters. In the long term, tariffs would bring jobs to the car manufacturing sector at the expense of higher prices and lower quality for consumers. I'm not sure how the employees who get laid off or can't sell cars while the supply chains are being redone will feel about it though. 

BZZZZ. It will have a huge impact. People don't have to buy cars very often, but when they do, it's VERY expensive and a lot of people have to borrow to do it. You couldn't be more wrong. 

Also, nobody manufactures all aspects of the car domestically. at a minimum, they import some parts, so even domestic cars willl get more expensive. 

It's very simple what this is. It's a regressive tax that disproportionately hits poor people. That's all it is  That's what the elite want; to nail poor people. 

[Scouts Honor]

RV avoiding the facts 

[jross]

New Car remain high, regardless of flat household incomes and ever increasing car prices.

The average monthly car payment for new vehicles in the U.S. is $742, while used vehicles clock in at $525, according to Experian’s State of the Automotive Finance Market report for Q4 2024. So, who’s buying these new cars? Generally not folks sweating the price tags.  Think people with deep pockets or those that shrug at rising costs, plus a few knuckleheads who haven’t cracked basic finance. The average credit score for new car buyers increased from 737 in 2019 to 755 in 2024, per Experian, hinting that slightly more disciplined buyers of new rides. Most new car loans (70.8%) go to prime (661-780) or super-prime (781-850) borrowers anyway; solid credit, solid cash flow.

Meanwhile, I picked up a 2012 Audi Q5 with 75,000 miles for $12,000 cash in December 2024. It’s a solid deal, even with used car prices still high from the post-COVID jump. Goes to show some of us are handling this craziness...

I appreciate people that make tough decisions with the long term in mind.

[jross]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

It's very simple what this is. It's a regressive tax that disproportionately hits poor people. That's all it is  That's what the elite want; to nail poor people. 

What do horny poor teenagers have to do with a regressive tax?

I can't think of any other demographic that wants to nail poor people.

[red viking]

40 minutes ago, jross said:

New Car remain high, regardless of flat household incomes and ever increasing car prices.

The average monthly car payment for new vehicles in the U.S. is $742, while used vehicles clock in at $525, according to Experian’s State of the Automotive Finance Market report for Q4 2024. So, who’s buying these new cars? Generally not folks sweating the price tags.  Think people with deep pockets or those that shrug at rising costs, plus a few knuckleheads who haven’t cracked basic finance. The average credit score for new car buyers increased from 737 in 2019 to 755 in 2024, per Experian, hinting that slightly more disciplined buyers of new rides. Most new car loans (70.8%) go to prime (661-780) or super-prime (781-850) borrowers anyway; solid credit, solid cash flow.

Meanwhile, I picked up a 2012 Audi Q5 with 75,000 miles for $12,000 cash in December 2024. It’s a solid deal, even with used car prices still high from the post-COVID jump. Goes to show some of us are handling this craziness...

I appreciate people that make tough decisions with the long term in mind.

New car prices affect used car prices. These are already very expensive for some people. 

Welcome to the real world. 

[jross]

I've bought three cars in the past four years, all used.  Real world.

[red viking]

1 minute ago, jross said:

I've bought three cars in the past four years, all used.  Real world.

You're amazingly out of touch. A lot of people can't afford to buy an additional car every year like you can, even if they're used. WOW. You need to get in touch with how it is out there for some people. 

There are many people that can't afford a used car at all. 

[jross]

Or... you could say I have a larger family and own four used vehicles worth less than the average price of one new vehicle.  And I was able to do this by saying yes to saving at the expense of other options, and a wife that returned to work after a decade off.

The three vehicle purchases all required sacrifice/tradeoffs.  I've earned knowledge of the used car market and its increases.

A step up from some of the beaters I've owned as a young man.  You know the 1200 pu truck, the 500 crown victoria, then 5000 honda civic... glorious cars... the eating pork for all meals as a step up from eating ramen and free gas station pizza for most meals...

You want to know how I know I'm doing fine?

I will retire early without government assistance, and I can pay for unexpected repairs without being late on a bill.  An earned privilege through diligence.  

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

Or... you could say I have a larger family and own four used vehicles worth less than the average price of one new vehicle.  And I was able to do this by saying yes to saving at the expense of other options, and a wife that returned to work after a decade off.

The three vehicle purchases all required sacrifice/tradeoffs.  I've earned knowledge of the used car market and its increases.

A step up from some of the beaters I've owned as a young man.  You know the 1200 pu truck, the 500 crown victoria, then 5000 honda civic... glorious cars... the eating pork for all meals as a step up from eating ramen and free gas station pizza for most meals...

You want to know how I know I'm doing fine?

I will retire early without government assistance, and I can pay for unexpected repairs without being late on a bill.  An earned privilege through diligence.  

That's great but in the real world not everybody can purchase an additional car every year. You need to wake up. There are plenty of people that can't even afford a used car. You're telling me that you were able to do it and that's all it means; that you were able to do it. It doesn't mean that everybody else can. A high percentage of kids and college students can't afford a car either, even if daddy is buying it for them.  

 

Edited yesterday at 05:39 PM by red viking

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, jross said:

Or... you could say I have a larger family and own four used vehicles worth less than the average price of one new vehicle.  And I was able to do this by saying yes to saving at the expense of other options, and a wife that returned to work after a decade off.

The three vehicle purchases all required sacrifice/tradeoffs.  I've earned knowledge of the used car market and its increases.

A step up from some of the beaters I've owned as a young man.  You know the 1200 pu truck, the 500 crown victoria, then 5000 honda civic... glorious cars... the eating pork for all meals as a step up from eating ramen and free gas station pizza for most meals...

You want to know how I know I'm doing fine?

I will retire early without government assistance, and I can pay for unexpected repairs without being late on a bill.  An earned privilege through diligence.  

You've also bragged about having a high paying job in the past. Sorry; you can't have it both ways. Now you want to talk about how you've sacrificed so much and worked so hard so you could be an additional car every year. 

[Bigbrog]

39 minutes ago, red viking said:

You've also bragged about having a high paying job in the past. Sorry; you can't have it both ways. Now you want to talk about how you've sacrificed so much and worked so hard so you could be an additional car every year. 

He did...I never remember reading that...care to prove it??

[red viking]

Just now, Bigbrog said:

He did...I never remember reading that...care to prove it??

Yes, and his job required a college degree. He said he's an engineer supervisor or something like that. No, I'm not going to search the threads. Proving anything to you isn't worth my time. 

[Bigbrog]

Just now, red viking said:

Yes, and his job required a college degree. He said he's an engineer supervisor or something like that. No, I'm not going to search the threads. Proving anything to you isn't worth my time. 

LOL...it isn't worth your time clearly because you haven't ever tried.

By the way, what is the point of your posts on this topic??  You keep lamenting that "not everyone can afford a car"...like no snit Sherlock!  It's been that way since the invention of the car.  Does it suck...maybe, maybe not...a lot of the reasons for it have to do with personal choices, hard work, sacrifice, etc....I know you and a couple others will get their undies in a bunch over it, but it's the truth.  You criticize @jross for potentially being an engineer supervisor or whatever, but you make no mention of the sacrifice and hard work HE put in to get that degree, how he must have done really well at his job to get promoted, and saved and spent wisely to be in the position he is in.  So once again all you do is belly ache about nonsense.

[red viking]

25 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...it isn't worth your time clearly because you haven't ever tried.

By the way, what is the point of your posts on this topic??  You keep lamenting that "not everyone can afford a car"...like no snit Sherlock!  It's been that way since the invention of the car.  Does it suck...maybe, maybe not...a lot of the reasons for it have to do with personal choices, hard work, sacrifice, etc....I know you and a couple others will get their undies in a bunch over it, but it's the truth.  You criticize @jross for potentially being an engineer supervisor or whatever, but you make no mention of the sacrifice and hard work HE put in to get that degree, how he must have done really well at his job to get promoted, and saved and spent wisely to be in the position he is in.  So once again all you do is belly ache about nonsense.

Not criticizing him for being an engineer supervisor. Great for him. But in the real world not everybody has that opportunity or can be as rich as him. Yes, some people couldn't afford a car before but now MORE can't. There seems to be zero empathy for these people. Very sad. 

He also makes it sound like he put in a huge sacrifice by having his wife work for a few years. Most families need both parents to work their entire career. 

Just very out of touch with the real world. That's all I'm saying. 

Edited yesterday at 06:58 PM by red viking

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

You've also bragged about having a high paying job in the past. Sorry; you can't have it both ways. Now you want to talk about how you've sacrificed so much and worked so hard so you could be an additional car every year. 

You know how most people earn high paying jobs……through hard work and sacrifice.  
 

I took his post above to say that he has been able to purchase the cars he has purchased through his decisions and actions, rather than griping about not making enough money.  The wonderful thing about America is that you can in fact make it, anyone can.  It’s all about your determination, drive, decisions and actions.  Yes some people are going to have some advantages that others don’t have.  That’s life.  But you can’t talk about those born with the silver spoon, without talking about those who were born in the ghetto, but worked there way into being able to buy a mansion as an adult.  
 

The actions, decisions, and determination of those who haven’t made it is not the responsibility of those who have taken actions and decisions that have allowed them to make it.  And that is another beautiful thing about America.  

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

You know how most people earn high paying jobs……through hard work and sacrifice.  
 

I took his post above to say that he has been able to purchase the cars he has purchased through his decisions and actions, rather than griping about not making enough money.  The wonderful thing about America is that you can in fact make it, anyone can.  It’s all about your determination, drive, decisions and actions.  Yes some people are going to have some advantages that others don’t have.  That’s life.  But you can’t talk about those born with the silver spoon, without talking about those who were born in the ghetto, but worked there way into being able to buy a mansion as an adult.  
 

The actions, decisions, and determination of those who haven’t made it is not the responsibility of those who have taken actions and decisions that have allowed them to make it.  And that is another beautiful thing about America.  

Yes, he may have made good decision and "sacrifices" (as he calls it) but the bottom line is that it wouldn't have happened without a very high paying job to start with. 

The basic fact is that not everybody can have a high paying job. Great for those that do, but it's literally impossible for everybody to be a doctor, engineer, CEO, etc. 

Welcome to the real world. Not everybody without a high paying job is lazy, stupid or on drugs. 

So, so out of touch. It's unbelievable. 

Edited yesterday at 07:16 PM by red viking

[red viking]

The point is that the tariffs are going to really hurt a lot of people. Cars are necessary in parts of the country. JRoss says he purchased a car every year recently. That doesn't really speak to the issue.