Meyer Shapiro Steroids Accusation

[Coastal]

Wrestlers who wrestle internationally or at least attempt to rarely juice as they are subject to Olympic style drug testing.   That's where they got Fix and Valencia. 

 

If there was an example of a wrestler who was significantly stronger than others and skipped attempting to qualify for Srs, U23s, U20s,... while in college, they'd be a really likely suspect for PEDs. 

[VakAttack]

32 minutes ago, Coastal said:

Wrestlers who wrestle internationally or at least attempt to rarely juice as they are subject to Olympic style drug testing.   That's where they got Fix and Valencia. 

 

If there was an example of a wrestler who was significantly stronger than others and skipped attempting to qualify for Srs, U23s, U20s,... while in college, they'd be a really likely suspect for PEDs. 

...I mean, the Russians had a PRETTY famous systematic doping program for their international athletes.

[Dogbone]

Is AJ being in your corner a good thing or bad thing when discussing steroid allegations....

[ionel]

29 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

...I mean, the Russians had a PRETTY famous systematic doping program for their international athletes.

... and if any haven't seen it watch Icarus (2017 film)

[Coastal]

41 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

...I mean, the Russians had a PRETTY famous systematic doping program for their international athletes.

HAD is the key word there and it wasn't an individual, it was an entire organization evading proper testing procedures.

 

[VakAttack]

4 minutes ago, Coastal said:

HAD is the key word there and it wasn't an individual, it was an entire organization evading proper testing procedures.

 

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/44426172/russian-wrestler-banned-two-years-breast-cancer-drug

 

This came out TODAY.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 minutes ago, Coastal said:

HAD is the key word there and it wasn't an individual, it was an entire organization evading proper testing procedures.

 

You sure it is still past tense?  They had a sizable dropoff, then a year later they were back on top.

[Coastal]

14 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You sure it is still past tense?  They had a sizable dropoff, then a year later they were back on top.

As an organized, state sponsored evasion of testing, yes.   I'm sure there athletes in all Olympic sports crossing the line but the flagrant distain for regulations is gone.

 

[BarSeries]

Slicedawg = Meyer 

 

[pokemonster]

25 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Slicedawg = Meyer 

 

Palacio might not be the better wrestler but he roasted tf out of Bo in that Twitter beef haha 

[Caveira]

Just now, pokemonster said:

Palacio might not be the better wrestler but he roasted tf out of Bo in that Twitter beef haha 

https://x.com/greentoepalacio/status/1781751216323674113?s=46&t=fk2zshC0Rqsp_LecYxAPcg
 

One of the better ones 

[BarSeries]

 

[Caveira]

37 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGTEIhrRTMN/?igsh=a2Z6aXl3ZzR2Z25z

 

 

[Scouts Honor]

that wasn't his best dig at lil bo

[lisa morales]

Nickal isn't the sharpest knife.  

[Caveira]

Full disclosure.  I don’t know if this is true.  Anyone know if this has any truth to it?   I copied from the Iowa board for the record 

There’s a lot of stuff around drug testing that most fans don’t have a clue about. As far as sourcing goes, I’ve been in and around drug testing protocols for 25 years both in and out of the NCAA. I won’t go so far as to say I’m an expert, but I do know a little bit. 

Post-Covid, the NCAA drug testing protocols around championship events have been greatly reduced. Hell, they didn’t do any testing at championships at all from 2020 until 2022 and the numbers since 2022 are a fraction of what they were before. They just haven’t tested much. 

The vast, vast majority of drug tests are performed by the university and not the NCAA. Probably 5:1 or higher. Any failures are investigated and handled internally with no direct NCAA involvement. The only way the NCAA gets involved in those tests is if someone leaks them the test results and they are really bad. 

Another element that people aren’t thinking about is the difference between a standard drug test and one that tests for PED’s. The process to test for PED’s is a lot more robust and is in turn much more costly. It’s normally 15-20x the cost to test for PED’s than it is for a standard drug test. Because of the expense, they are don’t a LOT less frequently. 

The NCAA normally runs 10-12k PED drug tests in division 1, 2, and 3 combined. There are 150k student athletes in D1 alone…over 500k when you include all NCAA student athletes. Roughly 2.5% of all student athletes will get a PED test annually. These tests are all random and who gets popped is at the mercy of that randomness. It’s not targeted. The timing of the testing is almost as random…guys can get pulled in the early season, late season, or school-year off season. 

Statistically, less than 50 D1 wrestlers will get tested annually. Not 50 D1 starters. Not 50 D1 Championship participants. Less than 50 total. A non-starter is 2-3 times more likely to get a random PED test than a starter. There’s also no control over when these PED tests happen. A guy could get tested in September or May. 

If we are being honest, this is a situation where the NCAA doesn’t want to stamp out PED usage so much as they want to appear that they are. If you get popped, the punishment is incredibly harsh…but the likelihood of getting popped is really, really low. 

If they were serious about actually reducing/eliminating PED usage, they would test every athletes 3-4 times/year. It wouldn’t take long to clean it up. Hit football players in August, October, January, and May. Hit wrestlers up in September, December, March, and May. The costs would be significantly higher, but personally I would rather see the NCAA spend an extra million a year doing that instead of hiring 5 more lawyers for advisory roles.