Where does Ghadiali end up?

[okokzach]

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[Elevator]

voted PSU and have no idea who this guy is?

[flyingcement]

he's originally from Michigan - if that means anything to him - could be attractive be to closer to home

[Wrestleknownothing]

PSU rolls with who they have rather than pick up a one year guy.

Iowa likes their guy.

The next two big pocket books are Michigan and Oklahoma State.

I think Oklahoma State wins a bidding war with Michigan.

Thought here is a twist. Oklahoma State whispers sweet nothings in Isaac Trumble's ear to pick up a guy with two years left. And Ghadiali goes to Michigan.

[nhs67]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

PSU rolls with who they have rather than pick up a one year guy.

Iowa likes their guy.

The next two big pocket books are Michigan and Oklahoma State.

I think Oklahoma State wins a bidding war with Michigan.

Thought here is a twist. Oklahoma State whispers sweet nothings in Isaac Trumble's ear to pick up a guy with two years left. And Ghadiali goes to Michigan.

If Trumble intends to go 97 KG, OSU is probably the place to go.

[okokzach]

5 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Thought here is a twist. Oklahoma State whispers sweet nothings in Isaac Trumble's ear to pick up a guy with two years left. And Ghadiali goes to Michigan.

I agree OSU ideally would find a guy that can give them 2 years so Dreshaun can RS, but I think Trumble only has one year remaining right?

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, okokzach said:

I agree OSU ideally would find a guy that can give them 2 years so Dreshaun can RS, but I think Trumble only has one year remaining right?

You are correct. I misread. Oops.

[BruceyB]

8 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

PSU rolls with who they have rather than pick up a one year guy.

Iowa likes their guy.

The next two big pocket books are Michigan and Oklahoma State.

I think Oklahoma State wins a bidding war with Michigan.

Thought here is a twist. Oklahoma State whispers sweet nothings in Isaac Trumble's ear to pick up a guy with two years left. And Ghadiali goes to Michigan.

You know I respect you, and PSU may not be a big "one year guy" school but they haven't been afraid to bring in guys over their recruits if it improved their line-up in a given year. If they feel that Taye could be a notable improvement over Cole, I wouldn't be surprised if they made the move. Since NIL was introduced, name a weight that hasn't been a pre-season AA contender that they haven't brought in a transfer (to be fair it's hard since they have very few of these weights) but especially since Connor may be on the outside looking in, this could result in a double transfer. Sinclair 184, Connor 197, Cole 285 at Missouri? 

However, I do think any moves will be well thought out and the long term consequences would be rationally considered. I doubt PSU would bring in a one year guy to win by a larger margin than stick with their original recruits if they believed they will win regardless.

[nhs67]

2 hours ago, BruceyB said:

You know I respect you, and PSU may not be a big "one year guy" school but they haven't been afraid to bring in guys over their recruits if it improved their line-up in a given year. If they feel that Taye could be a notable improvement over Cole, I wouldn't be surprised if they made the move. Since NIL was introduced, name a weight that hasn't been a pre-season AA contender that they haven't brought in a transfer (to be fair it's hard since they have very few of these weights) but especially since Connor may be on the outside looking in, this could result in a double transfer. Sinclair 184, Connor 197, Cole 285 at Missouri? 

However, I do think any moves will be well thought out and the long term consequences would be rationally considered. I doubt PSU would bring in a one year guy to win by a larger margin than stick with their original recruits if they believed they will win regardless.

There is one, potentially two, wildcards to consider aside for even the potential one-year incoming grad-transfers.

1 ) This will be the first full offseason that DT will have been HC at OSU.  Until nobody transfers out this offseason, I have difficulty thinking that nobody follows him.

2 ) Wisconsin aspect.  There are louder rumblings than ever, even indications, that Bono is gone this year.  After hearing some of the specifics of his extension (less guaranteed, being able to spread the hit out longer, etc), we could see Askren there.

If #2 happens we could see the exodus if the Mirasola brothers as well as Mesenbrink, especially if Mesenbrink's dad ends up being on-staff.  If #1 happens we could see some otherd go, although I am unsure who l as my prior guesses were refuted rather firmly here.  Were both to happen, you bet your ass that PSU would easily get the best Grad Transfers in.  Actually, were neither to happen they would if they wanted them as well.

[Gene Mills Fan]

Portal with 'do not contact' and a photo with Sentes Nate Jackson and Bormet saying 'he takes all my best wrestlers' is pretty suggestive!

[nhs67]

Just now, Gene Mills Fan said:

Portal with 'do not contact' and a photo with Sentes Nate Jackson and Bormet saying 'he takes all my best wrestlers' is pretty suggestive!

What photo?

[Gene Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

What photo?

was on Flo yesterday. They brought it up on their screen.

Edited 19 hours ago by Gene Mills Fan

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 hours ago, BruceyB said:

You know I respect you, and PSU may not be a big "one year guy" school but they haven't been afraid to bring in guys over their recruits if it improved their line-up in a given year. If they feel that Taye could be a notable improvement over Cole, I wouldn't be surprised if they made the move. Since NIL was introduced, name a weight that hasn't been a pre-season AA contender that they haven't brought in a transfer (to be fair it's hard since they have very few of these weights) but especially since Connor may be on the outside looking in, this could result in a double transfer. Sinclair 184, Connor 197, Cole 285 at Missouri? 

However, I do think any moves will be well thought out and the long term consequences would be rationally considered. I doubt PSU would bring in a one year guy to win by a larger margin than stick with their original recruits if they believed they will win regardless.

To be clear, I am not making any kind of "PSU is too virtuous" argument. First, I do not frame transfers that way. I find it silly. Second, everyone everywhere does, or will, bring in transfers. Third, I am very pro-athlete. Let them get paid. They did not for too long.

All that said, I will play.

NIL started in 2022. But not the way we see it now. In 2022 guys were getting free pizza (RBY) and burritos (Eierman) or doing commercials for local car dealerships. Things got a bit more serious in 2023 and have ramped up each year since, if reports are to be believed.

2022 - I expect the debate to now be about what constitutes "hasn't been a pre-season AA contender". If it is a true or redshirt freshman, is that non-pre-season contender? Or does recruiting rank matter? Eye of the beholder stuff.

• Clearly 125 was a hole and they brought in a 1 year guy, Drew Hilldebrandt. 
• 149 Bartlett bumps up to cover the weight rather than bring in a transfer.
• 157 wasn't a transfer, but a call back from retirement and coaching with Brady Berge.
• 165 they went with what they had and redshirted Alex Facundo while starting Creighton Edsell.
• That leaves 197. Was Michael Beard considered a pre-season AA contender? Some say yes, some say no. But two-year guy, Max Dean bumps up a weight because there is a future four-timer at his desired weight. This is a tough call. Did PSU "bring him in", or did Dean "escape the COVID restrictions" of the Ivy League, and in the process sacrifice by going up a weight? Depends on which narrative you prefer.
• 1 of 4. Or 2 of 5. Depends on your perspective.

2023 - 

• 125 Gary Steen, they clearly went with what they had. 
• All other weights are either locked down, or they had a freshman AA contender. 0 of 1

2024 -

• 125 rolled with a freshman in Braeden Davis who was not the clear starter in the pre-season. He had to beat Gary Steen in the Journeyman to win the job. I do not think you can call anyone at the weight an AA contender until after the season began and results rolled in.
• 133 brought in multi-year transfer, Aaron Nagao.
• 165 A healthy Alex Facundo takes an Olympic redshirt as Mitchel Mesenbrink comes in. Hard to argue Facundo is not a pre-season AA contender.
• 184 Bernie Truax cuts back down to 184, ala Max Dean, for the same reason as Max Dean, allowing Josh Barr to redshirt. If Barr goes is he a pre-season AA contender? Could go either way.
• 1 of 3, or 2 of 3.

2025 -

• Loaded top to bottom.

So counting conservatively PSU brought in 4 transfers out of 8 weights where they were not pre-season AA contenders. Of those 4, 2 were one year guys.

 

[Truzzcat]

To me Tayes landing spot is not super impactful to me. He is going into his 7th year I don't have the data, but I would assume 7th year guys do not generally bode very well compared to their historical results. He is also coming off of an injury that required a med shirt. I understand the weight clears out, but I just have a hard time seeing him as a high AA next year.

[nhs67]

2 hours ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

was on Flo yesterday. They brought it up on their screen.

Would you be able to screenshot it and post it?  I don't recall seeing it.

[Gene Mills Fan]

29 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Would you be able to screenshot it and post it?  I don't recall seeing it.

Boss almost caught me

[nhs67]

23 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

Boss almost caught me

Thank you - that's awesome.  Sentes seems to understand the scope of things and wants Ghad to do the best he can do.