Who Are The Federal Workers That "Don't Exist?"

[1032004]

10 hours ago, Caveira said:

Kind of like a no-show job?

 

Are you talking about this?  What is it even talking about?  Is this just about people working from home?  Kinda hard to tell, it’s a poorly written opinion piece.

17 hours ago, Caveira said:

Bla bla bla 

$1B a year for no-show jobs: How the feds forgot about merit

https://nypost.com/2015/11/10/1b-a-year-for-no-show-jobs-how-the-feds-forgot-about-merit/

 

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Are you talking about this?  What is it even talking about?  Is this just about people working from home?  Kinda hard to tell, it’s a poorly written opinion piece.

 

I think they are these are workers that have been told not to come to work for disciplinary reasons or because there is an ongoing investigation into them.  The old paid administrative leave.  At least it seemed pretty clear that's what they were talking about about the DHS and VA employees referenced in the article.  Not sure how those numbers add to $3.1 billion.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, fishbane said:

I think they are these are workers that have been told not to come to work for disciplinary reasons or because there is an ongoing investigation into them.  The old paid administrative leave.  At least it seemed pretty clear that's what they were talking about about the DHS and VA employees referenced in the article.  Not sure how those numbers add to $3.1 billion.

Gotcha.  Yeah as someone else said earlier I’m definitely in favor of making it easier for the government to fire people for legitimate disciplinary or performance reasons.

[mspart]

On 3/2/2025 at 10:23 AM, red viking said:

President Musk and diaper boy made the claim. Back it up. 

I just started this thread and a number of times RV demands that someone not Musk or Trump back up the claim.   I suggest you go to Musk or Trump and ask them yourself.  

If SS has people on their list that are 250 years old is it that hard to think there might be an employee or two that don't exist?  Just reason it out in your mind.   Then go ask those that made the claim if you can't reason it out in your mind. 

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

found him

 

[ionel]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

 Just reason it out in your mind.  

Please tell me you didn't really suggest this.  

[ionel]

47 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

found him

 

Shocked he didn't write the book: Doing Nothing for Dummies

[red viking]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

found him

 

Nice claim that a guy makes that just do happens to now be trying to sell books. Nothing suspicious there.

Also had a history of disputes w the agency. What a coincidence. 

Almost as credible as the claims made by DOGE

 

Edited March 4 by red viking

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

Nice claim that a guy makes that just do happens to now be trying to sell books on this subject. Nothing suspicious there. 

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/01/nx-s1-5313853/doge-savings-receipts-musk-trump

... shirley you aren't deflecting.  

[ionel]

Actually this guy does exist, so maybe rv wins this one, he has a pulse its just that he doesn't do anything with his pulse for the hard working tax payers.  He also seems intelligent enough to list his 5 things. 

[1032004]

3 hours ago, mspart said:

I just started this thread and a number of times RV demands that someone not Musk or Trump back up the claim.   I suggest you go to Musk or Trump and ask them yourself.  

If SS has people on their list that are 250 years old is it that hard to think there might be an employee or two that don't exist?  Just reason it out in your mind.   Then go ask those that made the claim if you can't reason it out in your mind. 

mspart

Yes I believe there is 1 or 2 like that.   Do you think it’s “efficient” to read 2 million e-mails in order to find them?

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes I believe there is 1 or 2 like that.   Do you think it’s “efficient” to read 2 million e-mails in order to find them?

As opposed to almost every administration in history trying to not weed out any corruption and looking the other way or just by putting their head in the sand.    Are stone walling bureaucrats  hard to root out after 30/50/75+ years of corruption.   How would you …. Other than pizzing on the first administration trying to make progress…. How would you in your almighty wisdom make progress?

[Scouts Honor]

10 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes I believe there is 1 or 2 like that.   Do you think it’s “efficient” to read 2 million e-mails in order to find them?

one or two among 3 million.

that's not even close the correct percentage, just on average people.

[1032004]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

As opposed to almost every administration in history trying to not weed out any corruption and looking the other way or just by putting their head in the sand.    Are stone walling bureaucrats  hard to root out after 30/50/75+ years of corruption.   How would you …. Other than pizzing on the first administration trying to make progress…. How would you in your almighty wisdom make progress?

I’m sure we could probably shed ~25% of the federal workforce without too many people noticing.

The early retirement or extended severance incentive was a good idea.  But give people some time to decide if they want to take it.  This would encourage people to also look for another job and hope to collect both the severance while also getting a new job.

If that doesn’t get you to your goal, do layoffs like a normal company would, take some time to actually determine what positions are redundant and who are the poor performers.   Not on the whims of some teenagers or based on an email demanding bullet points.   Don’t shut down entire departments in a moment’s notice, and if you really feel that’s necessary, actually do it legally.

Edited March 4 by 1032004

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I’m sure we could probably shed ~25% of the federal workforce without too many people noticing.

The early retirement or extended severance incentive was a good idea.  But give people some time to decide if they want to take it.  This would encourage people to also look for another job and hope to collect both the severance while also getting a new job.

If that doesn’t get you to your goal, do layoffs like a normal company would, take some time to actually determine what positions are redundant and who are the poor performers.   Not on the whims of some teenagers or based on an email demanding bullet points.   Don’t shut down entire departments in a moment’s notice, and if you really feel that’s necessary, actually do it legally.

your post was pretty good.. right up to the point where it's teenagers and emails...