NCAA announces transgender policy change

[headshuck]

[mspart]

Why would this be?

mspart

[1032004]

Fine by me, hopefully now we can stop being distracted by like the one person per year across all sports that this actually had any impact on.

So female to male can’t compete in the men’s division?

[red viking]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Fine by me, hopefully now we can stop being distracted by like the one person per year across all sports that this actually had any impact on.

So female to male can’t compete in the men’s division?

I agree. This has been the most ridiculous distraction from real issues of all time. would be nice if the ncaa would also move on to bigger issues of their own, like NIL, transfer portal, etc. 

[uncle bernard]

At long last, our great national scourge is over. Here's to a thousand years of peace and prosperity.

[headshuck]

Here’s to women voting conservatively in future elections.

[Scouts Honor]

here's to women's rights.

i can't believe it took a conservative to say it. 

[WrestlingRasta]

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Fine by me, hopefully now we can stop being distracted by like the one person per year across all sports that this actually had any impact on.

So female to male can’t compete in the men’s division?

One person per year across all sports?   Hmmm…interesting take.  
 

So the swimmer at U of Virginia, he only affected one person that whole year?

We also had the high school male wrestler competing in the women’s division. He only affected one person all year? 
 

That’s just two examples, in just two sports.  One HS, one college.  And only one person affected in totality of both cases?   Interesting take.  You sure that’s this hill you want to stand on? 

[Offthemat]

 

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

At long last, our great national scourge is over. Here's to a thousand years of peace and prosperity.

For someone who has a daughter that participates in sports and who now lives in the Philly region and watched first hand the scam that Lia Thomas pulled off it's an important topic for me.  

[mspart]

Just the fact that these guys are saying this is not an issue that needs to be addressed are really saying they don't want it addressed.   It is disingenuous in the extreme.   It is seemingly a crazy situation where conservatives are the ones concerned about fairness to women, this was the Ds franchise for decades.   Now it is clear to everyone in the country that the Ds are no longer for women.   They are no longer really for anything other than that which destroys law and order in society.   That is apparent.

mspart

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

One person per year across all sports?   Hmmm…interesting take.  
 

So the swimmer at U of Virginia, he only affected one person that whole year?

We also had the high school male wrestler competing in the women’s division. He only affected one person all year? 
 

That’s just two examples, in just two sports.  One HS, one college.  And only one person affected in totality of both cases?   Interesting take.  You sure that’s this hill you want to stand on? 

I’m talking about NCAA, which the thread is about.  Particularly D1 and maybe D2 where scholarships are involved.

And clearly I was referring to the one being the trans person.  Yes, them competing does impact other people.

I’m honestly not sure what swimmer and wrestler you’re even talking about, that’s how uncommon these athletes are.  Are you talking about Lia Thomas?  That was 3 years ago and she didn’t go to UVA.  What wrestler are you referring to?

Again, I’m on board with this rule, but hopefully it allows F to M trans folks compete in the men’s division.  But it was still a very small impact overall.

Edited Friday at 05:04 PM by 1032004

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

Just the fact that these guys are saying this is not an issue that needs to be addressed are really saying they don't want it addressed.   It is disingenuous in the extreme.   It is seemingly a crazy situation where conservatives are the ones concerned about fairness to women, this was the Ds franchise for decades.   Now it is clear to everyone in the country that the Ds are no longer for women.   They are no longer really for anything other than that which destroys law and order in society.   That is apparent.

mspart

It was an issue that needed to be addressed, but there were several politicians that pretty much ran on this as their #1 issue. Much bigger fish to fry, like the economy.

[WrestlingRasta]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

It was an issue that needed to be addressed, but there were several politicians that pretty much ran on this as their #1 issue. Much bigger fish to fry, like the economy.

The man is on an absolute hot streak of executive orders, you may not like them and you may not (I’m certainly laughing at some of them), but there are in fact other issues being addressed as well.  
 

Just like there has been way more than one person a year affected by men playing against women. 
 

You can’t make a very good argument when you can’t allow yourself to at least be accurate and realistic about what it is you are arguing against.  

Edited Friday at 05:12 PM by WrestlingRasta

[mspart]

Here in WA the WIAA which rules HS sports, have made a new criteria for sports - Girls and open (boys, girls, trans).  

That is the deal here.

mspart

 

[headshuck]

Here in WA the WIAA which rules HS sports, have made a new criteria for sports - Girls and open (boys, girls, trans).  
That is the deal here.
mspart
 

Doesn’t seem fair to boys to share locker rooms with girls and trans? What am I missing?

[Scouts Honor]

[1032004]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The man is on an absolute hot streak of executive orders, you may not like them and you may not (I’m certainly laughing at some of them), but there are in fact other issues being addressed as well.  
 

Just like there has been way more than one person a year affected by men playing against women. 
 

You can’t make a very good argument when you can’t allow yourself to at least be accurate and realistic about what it is you are arguing against.  

My prior post was not about Trump, I voted for him.  But I did not vote straight R either.  

I acknowledge that each trans person playing NCAA sports affects more than one other person, my comment was about the # of trans athletes in the NCAA.  How many were there this year?  The only one I heard about what the volleyball player at San Jose State.

[Scouts Honor]

how many would there be in the future... if steps aren't taken

and it starts at lower levels... which is worse 

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

My prior post was not about Trump, I voted for him.  But I did not vote straight R either.  

I acknowledge that each trans person playing NCAA sports affects more than one other person, my comment was about the # of trans athletes in the NCAA.  How many were there this year?  The only one I heard about what the volleyball player at San Jose State.

Outsports recently documented 44 'outed' males playing female sports in the NCAA over the last few years.   That's just the 'outed' athletes, and just the ones they documented.

But more to the guts of this....  The concern is not about how this affects men trying to compete against women, the concern is for the women trying not to compete against men.  

[1032004]

26 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Outsports recently documented 44 'outed' males playing female sports in the NCAA over the last few years.   That's just the 'outed' athletes, and just the ones they documented.

But more to the guts of this....  The concern is not about how this affects men trying to compete against women, the concern is for the women trying not to compete against men.  

Link - https://www.outsports.com/2025/1/16/22850789/trans-athletes-college-ncaa-lia-thomas/

 

See some dates as far back as 2010, this list also includes club teams, female to male folks playing on men’s teams, and trans folks that played on the team for their birth sex.

Nice try though.

[WrestlingRasta]

It’s not a nice try at all.   You literally said it’s affecting one person a year.   When I showed how stupid that was you went to clarify that you are concerned for the male trying to compete against the females…that only happens once a year. Now I show you 44 outed and documented by this one small site (you actually think every single ‘trans’ in the country playing sports is out, and you actually think they got everyone that is?) and you’re still trying to move the goal posts.  
 

How many were from 2010-2015 vs 2020-2025 since you want to try that route.  

[mspart]

That's a good question.   But since this is a recent social contagion/phenomenon I would venture to guess it is markedly higher 2020-2025.  

I have heard on the radio that the majority of those saying they were the opposite sex were very young boys who said this from very young age to adult hood.   Young girls did not participate in this stuff until just recently and it has exploded for boys and girls.  So are we to expect that this is a natural rather than contrived situation and that hundreds and thousands of boys and girls have been wanting to be the opposite sex for centuries?   There is no evidence of that.   There have been eunuchs that were emasculated and they were not considered women.   They were just considered no threat to the harem of the big guy.   This stuff is not new, the new part is that the incorrect thought that you can transition from one sex to the other.   That can't be done.  That is science.  

mspart

[red viking]

5 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

You know you're on a forum dominated by wingers when the most important topic of the day is trannyies playing women's sports, even though it's incredibly rare. 

[Scouts Honor]

lol

like the rare things you say most of the time