Why Trump supporters are stupid

[jross]

This is why home school has grown.

[Caveira]

9 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

He isn't the reincarnation of anything. 

He is just a terrible person who convinced a lot of people he's the best choice to lead this country. The fact it got to this point where we elected an actual criminal rapist (which isn't in dispute at all) is insane. 

Besides him being a piss poor leader who would sell out this country in a heartbeat, like he's doing now, if it would benefit him in some way, he's a terrible role model and example for kids. I really avoid discussing politics in class, but more kids bring things up and I do my best to explain the difference between right and wrong. And explaining that unless you're wealthy, born that way and incredibly privileged, you can succeed despite being a terrible person. That's depressing that I need to do that. 

If you’re a teacher.   That sure explains a lot. 

[red viking]

31 minutes ago, Caveira said:

If you’re a teacher.   That sure explains a lot. 

What's wrong with being a teacher. That sounds like a very pathetic attack. Teaching is one of the most important jobs we have and we don't pay teachers nearly enough respect., or money. This is a case in point. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

What's wrong with being a teacher. That sounds like a very pathetic attack. Teaching is one of the most important jobs we have and we don't pay teachers nearly enough respect., or money. This is a case in point. 

It’s excessively liberal these days.  Political rhetoric has no business in schools outside political science classes.  Teach reading writing science and arithmetic….. and leave the other shenanigans out of it.  

Edited 23 hours ago by Caveira

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

If you’re a teacher.   That sure explains a lot. 

 

32 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s excessively liberal these days.  Political rhetoric has no business in schools outside political science classes.  Teach reading writing science and arithmetic….. and leave the other shenanigans out of it.  

So is your comment including science teachers, math teachers, English teachers, automechanics teachers, woodshop teachers, metals teachers, etc etc? What about teachers who are on the conservative side of politics and don’t engage in any of the things you are mad at? 

Or does it just include the ones media tells you to be mad at? That’s a pretty full sweeping comment.  
 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

So is your comment including science teachers, math teachers, English teachers, automechanics teachers, woodshop teachers, metals teachers, etc etc? What about teachers who are on the conservative side of politics and don’t engage in any of the things you are mad at? 

Or does it just include the ones media tells you to be mad at? That’s a pretty full sweeping comment.  
 

Politically motivated public school systems.   

[Bigbrog]

I would say the majority of teachers are saints and deserve all the adulation in the world for what they do as well as deserve better pay; however, there is a small fraction of teachers that can't stop themselves from infusing their crazy political believes (one side or the other) on impressionable youths, that is a huge problem and should be rooted out and stopped.  However, it shouldn't mean deaminizing the whole profession.  

[WrestlingRasta]

13 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

I would say the majority of teachers are saints and deserve all the adulation in the world for what they do as well as deserve better pay; however, there is a small fraction of teachers that can't stop themselves from infusing their crazy political believes (one side or the other) on impressionable youths, that is a huge problem and should be rooted out and stopped.  However, it shouldn't mean deaminizing the whole profession.  

This.  

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

This.  

I should have been more specific.   My theory is trip is precisely this ~~>
 

however, there is a small fraction of teachers that can't stop themselves from infusing their crazy political believes (one side or the other) on impressionable youths

[PortaJohn]

@Tripnsweep, had a nice in depth conversation with a committee member of the Democratic party from the State of New York.  Lives in a Blue county.  When discussing the current situation the DNC has found themselves in at no point did the theory of "they're just dumb Trump voters" arise.  If anything someone like yourself would be noted down as "part of the problem."

Edited 20 hours ago by PortaJohn

[Scouts Honor]

19 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/)

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hotel-paid-millions-in-fines-for-unpaid-work)

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410)

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/)

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-donald-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002/)

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!" (https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story)

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-criticized-after-he-appears-mock-reporter-serge-kovaleski-n470016)

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/americas-first-post-text-president/549794/)
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/)

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!" (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html)

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-orders-protesters-coat-is-confiscated-and-he-is-sent-into-the-cold-a6802756.html)

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-cant-trump-just-condemn-nazis/567320/)

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be." (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57)

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/29/138-trump-policy-changes-2017-000603)

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-05/how-is-donald-trump-profiting-from-the-presidency-let-us-count-the-ways)

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/)

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html)

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.” (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/more-5-400-children-split-border-according-new-count-n1071791)

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/)

What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

I dont disagree at all. I knew trump was an idiot back in 1986: USFL suing the NFL, he said: we have the NFL right where we want them. He got $1.

however, i ask, that you now do biden and all the democrats 

[Scouts Honor]

13 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

 

He is just a terrible person who convinced a lot of people he's the best choice to lead this country. The fact it got to this point where we elected an actual criminal rapist (which isn't in dispute at all) is insane. 

Besides him being a piss poor leader who would sell out this country in a heartbeat, like he's doing now, if it would benefit him in some way, he's a terrible role model and example for kids. I really avoid discussing politics in class, but more kids bring things up and I do my best to explain the difference between right and wrong. And explaining that unless you're wealthy, born that way and incredibly privileged, you can succeed despite being a terrible person. That's depressing that I need to do that. 

the fact the country got to the point we had to elect trump is insane

i agree.

for all the bad parts you see... why do you never talk about any of the good parts... 

[Offthemat]

14 hours ago, Caveira said:

Spoiler.  I wanted it to be ~83/83 ish 

Then you’re answer would be  - the square root of two.  It’s something like 1.414. 

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Then you’re answer would be  - the square root of two.  It’s something like 1.414. 

Given a=2.071428571 (29/14) and b=83,
c = 83.02584

 

∠α = 1.43° = 1°25'47" = 0.024952 rad
∠β = 88.57° = 88°34'13" = 1.54584 rad
h = 2.07078
area = 85.96429
perimeter = 168.09727
inradius = 1.02279
circumradius = 41.51292

[WrestlingRasta]

4 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

the fact the country got to the point we had to elect trump is insane

i agree.

for all the bad parts you see... why do you never talk about any of the good parts... 

Can certainly agree with both parts of this.  
 

To answer the question at the end, and this is just my opinion, but it comes down to one word….entitlement. 
 

A lot of the current people walking around are used to us living in the greatest country in the world.  And they expect it to be just is. Not really into what went into making this the greatest country in the world, and what really goes into maintaining as the greatest country in the world. They just expect it because it’s all they know.  Many people, on ‘both sides of the aisle’, have gotten to the point they expect Utopia, otherwise we’re better off with Anarchy…if we can’t figure it out the way I want it we might as well just be on our own and be damned to think about anyone else. 
 

It comes down to perspective. If you have spent time in a number of different cultures around the world you won’t see our country as that horrible.  Particularly based so heavily on who’s President.  Even when we have a President who is a bumbling embicle, or a President who is a criminal fraud with a lot of smoke around sexual abuse and minors. Even with that…..we’re still doing a lot better than the vaaaaaaaast majority of the world.  Which is evident by the amount of people from all over the world that would love to come and make a life here. At the end of the day, our own little world, here in America, is what we make of it.  Sure this president or that president might tip the scale a little bit one way or the other..as it relates to our individual life and future…but at the end of the day our little world is what we make of it. 
 

If your little world here in America is so bad that you can’t stand to be here, that’s on you.  

[Tripnsweep]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Can certainly agree with both parts of this.  
 

To answer the question at the end, and this is just my opinion, but it comes down to one word….entitlement. 
 

A lot of the current people walking around are used to us living in the greatest country in the world.  And they expect it to be just is. Not really into what went into making this the greatest country in the world, and what really goes into maintaining as the greatest country in the world. They just expect it because it’s all they know.  Many people, on ‘both sides of the aisle’, have gotten to the point they expect Utopia, otherwise we’re better off with Anarchy…if we can’t figure it out the way I want it we might as well just be on our own and be damned to think about anyone else. 
 

It comes down to perspective. If you have spent time in a number of different cultures around the world you won’t see our country as that horrible.  Particularly based so heavily on who’s President.  Even when we have a President who is a bumbling embicle, or a President who is a criminal fraud with a lot of smoke around sexual abuse and minors. Even with that…..we’re still doing a lot better than the vaaaaaaaast majority of the world.  Which is evident by the amount of people from all over the world that would love to come and make a life here. At the end of the day, our own little world, here in America, is what we make of it.  Sure this president or that president might tip the scale a little bit one way or the other..as it relates to our individual life and future…but at the end of the day our little world is what we make of it. 
 

If your little world here in America is so bad that you can’t stand to be here, that’s on you.  

That's part of my belief right there. Our country has kind of gotten soft. Our power and wealth has let a lot of people, all political persuasions, get too comfortable and we've lost our killer instinct. 

[Tripnsweep]

https://youtu.be/hkg8PuSnKgM?si=P0TvJC1YH4TgR_vR

[mspart]

11 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

That's part of my belief right there. Our country has kind of gotten soft. Our power and wealth has let a lot of people, all political persuasions, get too comfortable and we've lost our killer instinct. 

Like Rome, Greece, Egypt, etc all the empires. 

mspart

[Offthemat]

2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Can certainly agree with both parts of this.  
 

To answer the question at the end, and this is just my opinion, but it comes down to one word….entitlement. 
 

A lot of the current people walking around are used to us living in the greatest country in the world.  And they expect it to be just is. Not really into what went into making this the greatest country in the world, and what really goes into maintaining as the greatest country in the world. They just expect it because it’s all they know.  Many people, on ‘both sides of the aisle’, have gotten to the point they expect Utopia, otherwise we’re better off with Anarchy…if we can’t figure it out the way I want it we might as well just be on our own and be damned to think about anyone else. 
 

It comes down to perspective. If you have spent time in a number of different cultures around the world you won’t see our country as that horrible.  Particularly based so heavily on who’s President.  Even when we have a President who is a bumbling embicle, or a President who is a criminal fraud with a lot of smoke around sexual abuse and minors. Even with that…..we’re still doing a lot better than the vaaaaaaaast majority of the world.  Which is evident by the amount of people from all over the world that would love to come and make a life here. At the end of the day, our own little world, here in America, is what we make of it.  Sure this president or that president might tip the scale a little bit one way or the other..as it relates to our individual life and future…but at the end of the day our little world is what we make of it. 
 

If your little world here in America is so bad that you can’t stand to be here, that’s on you.  

Talk about the mentality of a sheep.  As long as I get my feed, I don’t care about anyone or anything else, and I don’t mind getting sheared, it’s not so bad.  That’s the predominant thinking in those countries where people shut down and hide when the subject of politics comes up.  There’s a poem about that attitude. 
 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

Some of us are proud to participate in citizenship. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Offthemat

[WrestlingRasta]

27 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Talk about the mentality of a sheep.  As long as I get my feed, I don’t care about anyone or anything else, and I don’t mind getting sheared, it’s not so bad.  That’s the predominant thinking in those countries where people shut down and hide when the subject of politics comes up.  There’s a poem about that attitude. 
 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

Some of us are proud to participate in citizenship. 

That’s what you took from that. 
 

Not surprising.  And still boring.