Why Trump supporters are stupid

[Tripnsweep]

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/)

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hotel-paid-millions-in-fines-for-unpaid-work)

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410)

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/)

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-donald-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002/)

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!" (https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story)

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-criticized-after-he-appears-mock-reporter-serge-kovaleski-n470016)

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/americas-first-post-text-president/549794/)
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/)

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!" (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html)

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-orders-protesters-coat-is-confiscated-and-he-is-sent-into-the-cold-a6802756.html)

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-cant-trump-just-condemn-nazis/567320/)

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be." (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57)

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/29/138-trump-policy-changes-2017-000603)

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-05/how-is-donald-trump-profiting-from-the-presidency-let-us-count-the-ways)

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/)

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html)

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.” (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/more-5-400-children-split-border-according-new-count-n1071791)

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/)

What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Tripnsweep said:

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/)

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hotel-paid-millions-in-fines-for-unpaid-work)

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410)

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/)

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-donald-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002/)

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!" (https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story)

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-criticized-after-he-appears-mock-reporter-serge-kovaleski-n470016)

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/americas-first-post-text-president/549794/)
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/)

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!" (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html)

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-orders-protesters-coat-is-confiscated-and-he-is-sent-into-the-cold-a6802756.html)

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-cant-trump-just-condemn-nazis/567320/)

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be." (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57)

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/29/138-trump-policy-changes-2017-000603)

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-05/how-is-donald-trump-profiting-from-the-presidency-let-us-count-the-ways)

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/)

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html)

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.” (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/more-5-400-children-split-border-according-new-count-n1071791)

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/)

What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

TL;DR for 99.9% of humans.  
 

fear leads to anger.  

anger leads to hate.  
hate leads to suffering.  

Edited Monday at 10:39 PM by Caveira

[Tripnsweep]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

TL;DR for 99.9% of humans.  
 

fear leads to anger.  

anger leads to hate.  
hate leads to suffering.  

It's a shame you can't read. 

[jross]

It’s a shame that you can’t read or discern bull*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*, cite sources of the compilation, and recognize that not everything mentioned is true.

[Caveira]

15 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

It's a shame you can't read. 

I even have to have my wife type for me.   It’s crazy.  
 

do you hate in your dreams?   

[mspart]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

I even have to have my wife type for me.   It’s crazy.  
 

do you hate in your dreams?   

I thought so!! 

mspart

[red viking]

I think the moral weakness is their bigger problem, even though they do GENERALLY have lower intelligence. 

A lot of them know he's as crooked as he'll but don't care as long as it benefits them. A lot are too dumb though to realize they aren't benefitting.  

Edited yesterday at 12:45 AM by red viking

[Offthemat]

Was that a Rachel Maddow clip?

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, red viking said:

I think the moral weakness is their bigger problem, even though they do GENERALLY have lower intelligence. 

A lot of them know he's as crooked as he'll but don't care as long as it benefits them. A lot are too dumb though to realize they aren't benefitting.  

Everybody knows that Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler & Satan.  Can it get any worse?  What he is going to do to or economy and country will make Palisade look like a camp fire.  There is no reason to get your TDS shots, its incurable this time.  We don't need 50 new Rednsweep or trip viking threads.  The end is here, we all know it.   

[headshuck]

You’ll never find peace on this board. I hope you have friends somewhere else to help you through this.

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

Everybody knows that Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler & Satan.  Can it get any worse?  What he is going to do to or economy and country will make Palisade look like a camp fire.  There is no reason to get your TDS shots, its incurable this time.  We don't need 50 new Rednsweep or trip viking threads.  The end is here, we all know it.   

Can you imagine how it feels to be one of those noble lawfare lawyers who’ve lost their jobs at DoJ and FBI?  Some of whom didn’t do anything worse than play around in Melania’s panties…drawers…you know what I mean. 

[Caveira]

I love cooking pasta.  One of my tricks is to cook it in stock.  Both for seafood dishes or tomato based.   (Seafood / shrimp stock for seafood, chicken stock for tomato based).  
 

On the internet I found a half gallon of liberal tears.   It was expensive ($25 usd) but damn that pasta was good.  I can’t certify where they sourced it from but there is a decent % chance that some of it is red Vikings.    Now I couldn’t solve the formula.   Given I can’t read but bonus if you solve it for me:

(4x + 2)/3 + 5 = 6x - 4
 

[Paul158]

2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/)

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hotel-paid-millions-in-fines-for-unpaid-work)

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410)

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/)

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-donald-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002/)

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!" (https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story)

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-criticized-after-he-appears-mock-reporter-serge-kovaleski-n470016)

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/americas-first-post-text-president/549794/)
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/)

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!" (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html)

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-orders-protesters-coat-is-confiscated-and-he-is-sent-into-the-cold-a6802756.html)

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-cant-trump-just-condemn-nazis/567320/)

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be." (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57)

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/29/138-trump-policy-changes-2017-000603)

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-05/how-is-donald-trump-profiting-from-the-presidency-let-us-count-the-ways)

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/)

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html)

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.” (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/more-5-400-children-split-border-according-new-count-n1071791)

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/)

What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

Maybe you should simply move on. It is ok. Failure is part of life. Dwelling on it does not make it any better. Stepping back and doing a thorough assessment of "YOUR" failure is important. Then going about systematically to fix what caused your failure is very important. Good luck. Some Democrats are doing that some are not.

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I love cooking pasta.  One of my tricks is to cook it in stock.  Both for seafood dishes or tomato based.   (Seafood / shrimp stock for seafood, chicken stock for tomato based).  
 

On the internet I found a half gallon of liberal tears.   It was expensive ($25 usd) but damn that pasta was good.  I can’t certify where they sourced it from but there is a decent % chance that some of it is red Vikings.    Now I couldn’t solve the formula.   Given I can’t read but bonus if you solve it for me:

(4x + 2)/3 + 5 = 6x - 4
 

29/14. Thanks, but we should do some calculus. 

Edited yesterday at 01:50 AM by red viking

[jross]

Significant betting odds favor that @red viking does not know calculus and differential equations.

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, jross said:

Significant betting odds favor that @red viking does not know calculus and differential equations.

I didn't take diffy q but calculus was easy for me. I've actually done it for fun sometimes. 

Edited yesterday at 02:04 AM by red viking

[jross]

That is impressive.  Calc 1 is more than most.  Did you complete Calc 2 and 3?   

[jross]

I've found that understanding of Boolean logic and logic gates is surprisingly relevant for understanding logical reasoning, argument construction, and critical thinking in real life.  Much more so than advanced calculus and differential equations.  Advanced math does show analysis and diligence.

[red viking]

8 minutes ago, jross said:

That is impressive.  Calc 1 is more than most.  Did you complete Calc 2 and 3?   

Just Calc 2. I started to take Calc 3 in the army (remotely) for the fun of it but got sidetracked by something else. I didn't need any more than Calc 2 for my hydrogeology m.s. 

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, jross said:

I've found that understanding of Boolean logic and logic gates is surprisingly relevant for understanding logical reasoning, argument construction, and critical thinking in real life.  Much more so than advanced calculus and differential equations.  Advanced math does show analysis and diligence.

I'll check that out. I enjoy youtube math videos, like professor Leonard and Math Queen (she's hot too)

Edited yesterday at 02:28 AM by red viking

[Caveira]

Close but I don’t know if it works.   Right triangle.  Leg a is 29/14.  Angle a is ~1.426.     Lengths of remaining sides????    It’s close ish to what I want I think.  Length's in decimals tho 
 

the answer isn’t political.   Fwiw.  

Edited yesterday at 02:59 AM by Caveira

[red viking]

28 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Close but I don’t know if it works.   Right triangle.  Leg a is 29/14.  Angle a is ~1.426.     Lengths of remaining sides????    It’s close ish to what I want I think.  Length's in decimals tho 
 

the answer isn’t political.   Fwiw.  

That angle is in degrees too, not radians? I'd just use trig functions to determine them. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

That angle is in degrees too, not radians? I'd just use trig functions to determine them. 

Spoiler.  I wanted it to be ~83/83 ish 

[Tripnsweep]

3 hours ago, ionel said:

Everybody knows that Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler & Satan.  Can it get any worse?  What he is going to do to or economy and country will make Palisade look like a camp fire.  There is no reason to get your TDS shots, its incurable this time.  We don't need 50 new Rednsweep or trip viking threads.  The end is here, we all know it.   

He isn't the reincarnation of anything. 

He is just a terrible person who convinced a lot of people he's the best choice to lead this country. The fact it got to this point where we elected an actual criminal rapist (which isn't in dispute at all) is insane. 

Besides him being a piss poor leader who would sell out this country in a heartbeat, like he's doing now, if it would benefit him in some way, he's a terrible role model and example for kids. I really avoid discussing politics in class, but more kids bring things up and I do my best to explain the difference between right and wrong. And explaining that unless you're wealthy, born that way and incredibly privileged, you can succeed despite being a terrible person. That's depressing that I need to do that. 

[Bigbrog]

9 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

He isn't the reincarnation of anything. 

He is just a terrible person who convinced a lot of people he's the best choice to lead this country. The fact it got to this point where we elected an actual criminal rapist (which isn't in dispute at all) is insane. 

Besides him being a piss poor leader who would sell out this country in a heartbeat, like he's doing now, if it would benefit him in some way, he's a terrible role model and example for kids. I really avoid discussing politics in class, but more kids bring things up and I do my best to explain the difference between right and wrong. And explaining that unless you're wealthy, born that way and incredibly privileged, you can succeed despite being a terrible person. That's depressing that I need to do that. 

There are plenty of mental health resources you could use out there...maybe you and RV could get a group discount?