Ono vs Spencer Feb 26th

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Cool video by Gross detailing his travel to the event. He hit quite a few significant speed bumps but kept a positive attitude throughout and had a nice message at the end. 

[dragit]

5 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Cool video by Gross detailing his travel to the event. He hit quite a few significant speed bumps but kept a positive attitude throughout and had a nice message at the end. 

Thanks for posting, enjoyed watching that.  I think I'm going to make myself watch this every time I travel, starting Friday, in order to try to change my attitude, such as with the guy at the rental car counter last week and the uber guy today, and most of the other service people in between.

[MPhillips]

Christ that's big. Sorry...

Edited 3 hours ago by MPhillips

[GrandOlm]

On 2/25/2025 at 3:26 PM, Truzzcat said:

Looking for more opinions on this match. I think Nolf giving his thoughts that spencer wins easily has changed a lot of people's perspectives. I feel foolish questioning nolf in the slightest, the guy is a genius. However, one of his main points of contention was that people had not seen Ono before so now that he can be scouted spencer can shut him down. I just dont think Ono is as one dimensional as Nolf made him out to be. He does work a lot out of over collar snaps to a low ankle attack, but he also hit Marcus with a nasty ankle pick, and head pinched just about everyone at senior worlds. I also think it will be interesting that ono despite shooting a lot of low ankle attacks, shoots primarily head outside. Spencer may be the best I have ever seen at defending head inside singles. Ono also shoots into his underhook similarly to Hidlay and was able to get pushouts on blaze and uguaev who are both super stingy. None of those guys are spencer lee though so maybe he can shut all that down. Where spencer can do really well here, I believe is if he can re-attack off of Ono snap low level series. If he can hold his ties and keep his feet moving, I think he is going to have opportunities there, and obviously it just takes one chance on top for Spencer. For me I am leaning Ono, but I do not think the match is close. I think spencer either can shut down ono and he strings together some counterattacks and turns him and wins pretty decisively, or he cannot and ono runs away with it. 

I didn't think anything of it. 

Before I even saw his response, I was almost certain that he'd pick Spencer. I think it's just the culture of senior level wrestlers in the US. If you're American, you back the American publicly.  

It's still not that rare for senior level wrestlers to call their opponents "the Russian" or "the Turk". Not exactly a mindset that lends itself to heaping praise on foreign opponents. 

[GrandOlm]

Kyle's main similarities to Bruce are that he medals a lot, while losing a lot, and is untouchable domestically. 

But I think their standing at their respective weight and the trajectories differ. Bruce was ambiguously the best wrestler in the world for most of his career, with a 4 year window in his 30s where he had a mini reign as the clear top guy.

Snyder peaked early and had his mini reign very young. He was then overshadowed by another wrestler moving up and seemed to regress as he moved into his later 20s.