Government Incompetence

[mspart]

Maybe this is their future fire prevention for the area.  Proscribed burn so to speak. 

mspart

[Husker_Du]

On 1/14/2025 at 1:21 PM, Le duke said:

If you turn on all of the fire hydrants, some of them aren't going to have water. Over a large enough network, with enough open valves, no matter how much water you have feeding it, you will run out of pressure. The end. Turns out, when you have fire spread out over an area that large, you meet those conditions. You can do the same thing with your household irrigation system, at a much smaller scale. 

Now, if you're suggesting that the civil engineering standards should be updated to meet newer threats and resultant requirements, sure, I'd agree with you. But the water delivery system is not "bad"; it's built to a known standard that is, for lack of a better term, outdated. But that's still the standard.

lol. does the government own you or something?

they 

1) cut 17m in funding

2) didn't use 7b allotted for improvements

3) didn't have the reservoir filled

4) cut forest management

and you're dying on the hill that 'stuff happens and nothing could have been done better and there's no one to blame'

keep going. this is incredible. 

[Le duke]

lol. does the government own you or something?
they 
1) cut 17m in funding
2) didn't use 7b allotted for improvements
3) didn't have the reservoir filled
4) cut forest management
and you're dying on the hill that 'stuff happens and nothing could have been done better and there's no one to blame'
keep going. this is incredible. 

Because you insist on continually opening your trap and acting like the fool we know you to be:

1) The overall FD budget increased.
2) Eminent domain cases take a long time. Look those words up.
3) There are a half dozen other reservoirs that supply water to this area. Those reservoirs are above their historical averages. Overall supply was not an issue. Local pressure at hydrants was the problem. But, this is well beyond your ability to comprehend, so I’ll move on.
4) CAL FIRE’s budget has grown every year since 2019. From $2.5 billion, with 7,100 personnel to $4.2 billion and 12,511 personnel in 2024-2025.


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[headshuck]

A friend of mine who lives in LA and narrowly escaped the fires posted this.

Everyone agrees more could have been done to prepare.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Everyone agrees more could have been done to prepare.

I know 1 person who doesn’t agree.   I’ll protect their secret identity though.  

[Husker_Du]

53 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Because you insist on continually opening your trap and acting like the fool we know you to be:

1) The overall FD budget increased.
2) Eminent domain cases take a long time. Look those words up.
3) There are a half dozen other reservoirs that supply water to this area. Those reservoirs are above their historical averages. Overall supply was not an issue. Local pressure at hydrants was the problem. But, this is well beyond your ability to comprehend, so I’ll move on.
4) CAL FIRE’s budget has grown every year since 2019. From $2.5 billion, with 7,100 personnel to $4.2 billion and 12,511 personnel in 2024-2025.


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deflect, deflect, deflect

you gotta be a full scale cuck to make excuses for the government the way you do.

let's just throw our hands up. nothing could have been done (despite the trillions californians pay in taxes)

you're a loser. 

[Bigbrog]

53 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Because you insist on continually opening your trap and acting like the fool we know you to be:

1) The overall FD budget increased.
2) Eminent domain cases take a long time. Look those words up.
3) There are a half dozen other reservoirs that supply water to this area. Those reservoirs are above their historical averages. Overall supply was not an issue. Local pressure at hydrants was the problem. But, this is well beyond your ability to comprehend, so I’ll move on.
4) CAL FIRE’s budget has grown every year since 2019. From $2.5 billion, with 7,100 personnel to $4.2 billion and 12,511 personnel in 2024-2025.


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So you think the leadership did a great job before, during and after this??

[Le duke]

deflect, deflect, deflect
you gotta be a full scale cuck to make excuses for the government the way you do.
let's just throw our hands up. nothing could have been done (despite the trillions californians pay in taxes)
you're a loser. 

Deflect… with facts? Everything you said above was a lie or half-truth.

Hell, you can’t stop lying even now. Californians don’t pay (present tense) trillions in taxes. In 2023, they paid 220 billion in state and 507 billion in federal taxes. That’s not even one trillion, let alone several trillions.

All of this stuff is easily looked up if you have any passing interest in the truth.


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[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, Le duke said:

 

Deflect… with facts? Everything you said above was a lie or half-truth.

Hell, you can’t stop lying even now. Californians don’t pay (present tense) trillions in taxes. In 2023, they paid 220 billion in state and 507 billion in federal taxes. That’s not even one trillion, let alone several trillions.

All of this stuff is easily looked up if you have any passing interest in the truth.


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Which states pay more in taxes?

[Le duke]

Which states pay more in taxes?

I didn’t say that anyone pays more. The claim I contradicted was that Californians pay (present tense) trillions in taxes; they don’t.

But, if you are so inclined, you can look up per-capita state and federal taxes. It’s all out there. I’m guessing DC and NY pay more state tax income tax on a per-capita basis but, again, just a guess.


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[mspart]

But you are not answering the question.   Husker was obviously being hyperbolic much like you are in excusing the government and absolving them of any  culpability in this wreck of an incident response.  

To put your argument into perspective, Californians pay 0.22 Trillions in state taxes and 0.507 Trillions in Federal taxes.   You see, they pay trillions in taxes.   Stupid  argument to pick UB.

mspart

[ionel]

16 hours ago, Le duke said:

 The claim I contradicted was that Californians pay (present tense) trillions in taxes; they don’t.

But they should correct? 

[Offthemat]

I didn’t see property, sales, car tags, excise, licensing and permitting, etc, on the list.