This is a symptom of what is wrong with wrestling!

[Alces Alces Gigas]

College wrestling has issues and these two burn my butt!

I travelled to Nashville to watch the duals and spent good money for tickets, gas and lodging.    The hosts decided that programs were not needed for this event. The friend I was with didn't have a working knowledge of the teams or the athletes and had no way to get a handle on the competitors or what the expectations should be.   Piss poor! Especially for the cost of the tix!

 

1/2 of the gym did not have the ability to see the team score!    The only score boards with the team score faced only 1/2 of the gym. 

 

I wrote the folks at Journeyman about these issues and their answer was to follow along on Tournaflex.com.   What a crock!     Wrestling is its own worst enemy!    

[Bardamu911]

that must have been very difficult for you

[Alces Alces Gigas]

11 minutes ago, Bardamu911 said:

that must have been very difficult for you

Thanks a bunch for the comment!    Your input is awesome!!

[Southend]

Agreed, piss poor customer relations. The sport is only for wrestlers. Given. 

[flyingcement]

They also chose to use Rokin, which is mostly home to crypto scammers and an extreme political fringe.  Which is sort of beside the point because they flubbed important pieces of the broadcast on Days 1 and 2.  

[1032004]

Do many tournaments have programs anymore?  I feel like that might just be a sign of the times and not really specific to wrestling.

I did find this reply to some criticism by Journeyman to be odd.  Which I think was even in response to some sort of criticism they were making of rokfin (which they later deleted).

 

[buckshot]

Wrestling is the only sport that puts an effort into making it hard on fans to watch it. Other than Nationals and conference tournaments they keep schedules under wraps. How many times are people on message boards asking when the next round begins or if consolations will run concurrent with the championship round? It's almost impossible to have an event streamed without some kind of issue. Best case scenario is that the stream works but if it does you can bet the farm that the clock/scores won't be shown for at least half of it. If the powers that be had their way we wouldn't even get schedules, they'd just have meets randomly and the only people who would know about them would be the coaches and teams. 

And then there's the secrecy around players changing weights and injuries. I love PSU but I'll never understand Cael's need for holding back any and all information. Does he actually think that announcing Brooks was moving to 197 in preseason would have hurt him? 

[Alces Alces Gigas]

Buckshot, I agree wit you 100% regarding making it hard to watch!   Every article written about upcoming events should include date and time of said event!  Flo and Track should include in their dashboards when each session of tournaments starts and which round will be wrestled which session.    One shouldn't need to be logged on to their device to be able to determine if the semis are tonight or first thing in the morning when sitting in the gym! 

 

My big pet peeve is the stream for events not starting until moments before the whistle blows!   No.way to.tell if you have jumped through the right hoops to log in to watch and by the time you figure it out, 3 matches have been wrestled.

[Greenwave]

I agree, also why do schools create tournaments to compete against others.   Soldier Salute was created to bring sub par teams together other than Iowa so Iowa can protect seeding numbers.

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, Greenwave said:

I agree, also why do schools create tournaments to compete against others.   Soldier Salute was created to bring sub par teams together other than Iowa so Iowa can protect seeding numbers.

Wasn’t it created when midlands was uncertain / getting cancelled during Covid?

the lineup seems far tougher than the journeyman Duals no?

they have a lot of bigger names teams   They have the 2,4,5,8,9,10,22 ranked teams…. Including mizzu… isu… nebby…. 

What is binghamton and Little Rock ranked from those journeyman duals?

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

21 minutes ago, Greenwave said:

I agree, also why do schools create tournaments to compete against others.   Soldier Salute was created to bring sub par teams together other than Iowa so Iowa can protect seeding numbers.

If I recall correctly Soldier Salute was created as much to be an alternative to Midlands when Midlands cancelled due to the pandemic.

[alex1fly]

Wrestling has come a long ways in broadcasting and watchability. But, still has a long ways to go before it's slick and seamless. Keep sharing suggestions with event producers and eventually you hope that they will listen and improve.

[Idaho]

And the sad part is that even  with technology to watch from the comfort of your home, Flo can make it even worse. 

I feel like there is a video to be made, "If Flo broadcasts were really what was happening in a match." Kind of like, what if Zoom were real life.