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18 hours ago, flyingcement said:

out of curiosity what types of things were they looking to change? if you can't share it, I understand

I don't know specifically, but the gist of it was that Zeke had lost some of his luster with recruits and the people who hold/held the actual authority wanted to let him retire peacefully and pass it on. Apparently they wanted to pursue somebody younger like Taylor, and Zeke basically told them he would leave when he was good and ready. Somebody somewhere had foresight that Taylor would become available in a few years. But this was 3rd hand information. I think the changes that were coming to the ASU athletic department were a part of it, since everyone knew after the Herm Edwards debacle it was only a matter of time until the AD "resigned". 

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24 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I don't know specifically, but the gist of it was that Zeke had lost some of his luster with recruits and the people who hold/held the actual authority wanted to let him retire peacefully and pass it on. Apparently they wanted to pursue somebody younger like Taylor, and Zeke basically told them he would leave when he was good and ready. Somebody somewhere had foresight that Taylor would become available in a few years. But this was 3rd hand information. I think the changes that were coming to the ASU athletic department were a part of it, since everyone knew after the Herm Edwards debacle it was only a matter of time until the AD "resigned". 

I think it’s safe to say they probably couldn’t have afforded Taylor unless Martori’s funding was still there right (and maybe not even then)?

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3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I think it’s safe to say they probably couldn’t have afforded Taylor unless Martori’s funding was still there right (and maybe not even then)?

I think if they had followed the plan and done what Art wanted Sunkist would still be around. Also Sunkist is possibly trying to reduce their liability too. 

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41 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I think if they had followed the plan and done what Art wanted Sunkist would still be around. Also Sunkist is possibly trying to reduce their liability too. 

Liability in regards to what?

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I never heard any news on this. What happened with Perry?

Unsavory behavior with female athletes.

Not illegal but highly unethical.


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8 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

I don't know specifically, but the gist of it was that Zeke had lost some of his luster with recruits and the people who hold/held the actual authority wanted to let him retire peacefully and pass it on. Apparently they wanted to pursue somebody younger like Taylor, and Zeke basically told them he would leave when he was good and ready. Somebody somewhere had foresight that Taylor would become available in a few years. But this was 3rd hand information. I think the changes that were coming to the ASU athletic department were a part of it, since everyone knew after the Herm Edwards debacle it was only a matter of time until the AD "resigned". 

Losing Pendleton was huge. I thought at the time Zeke should have stepped aside into another role and Pendleton taken over. That hurt. 

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2 hours ago, SunDevil said:

Losing Pendleton was huge. I thought at the time Zeke should have stepped aside into another role and Pendleton taken over. That hurt. 

I know they presented it like they were happy he went to ORST, but truthfully you are right. That never should have happened. One of the many things they should have done differently. Pendleton wouldn't have ignored people complaining about Perry either. 

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On 12/20/2024 at 5:54 PM, Spencerlee said:

Look at either Flos or Willies projections. Another 21ish points would put Iowa within about 10 pts.

 

It's good to see Iowa homers using Spencer's name finally acknowledging what everyone knew...  you must pay big money to recruit wrestlers from other teams in order to have a chance at a title. Good job. 

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3 hours ago, Idaho said:

It's good to see Iowa homers using Spencer's name finally acknowledging what everyone knew...  you must pay big money to recruit wrestlers from other teams in order to have a chance at a title. Good job. 

thanks

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On 12/20/2024 at 5:54 PM, Spencerlee said:

Look at either Flos or Willies projections. Another 21ish points would put Iowa within about 10 pts.

 

You don’t really believe that, do you? The current rankings are close to worst case for Penn State with Lilledahl and Davis working up, Barr will be higher in the next rendition too. You could add Figueroa and remove any PSU wrestler of your choice and Iowa still wouldn’t win.

Let’s make a wager to reset the parameters a bit. I’ll give you 70 points(PSU -70), as I expect Penn State to be around 170 again and Iowa 100. $50 or another incentive if you have another suggestion. I pay my debts if it happens unlike Jimmy. No conditions like injuries or other circumstantial things.

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1 hour ago, MLB9 said:

You don’t really believe that, do you? The current rankings are close to worst case for Penn State with Lilledahl and Davis working up, Barr will be higher in the next rendition too. You could add Figueroa and remove any PSU wrestler of your choice and Iowa still wouldn’t win.

Let’s make a wager to reset the parameters a bit. I’ll give you 70 points(PSU -70), as I expect Penn State to be around 170 again and Iowa 100. $50 or another incentive if you have another suggestion. I pay my debts if it happens unlike Jimmy. No conditions like injuries or other circumstantial things.

This is pretty tasty. Let me consult the nog and I might take you up if Spencer Lee gets busy streaming games and forgets to respond

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2 hours ago, MLB9 said:

You don’t really believe that, do you? The current rankings are close to worst case for Penn State with Lilledahl and Davis working up, Barr will be higher in the next rendition too.

i have Lilledahl as champ in Crystal Ball. it's very close to be the best case scenario for PSU, although in this forecast Davis and Barr do have the ability to earn ~ 5 more points each. 

TBD

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1 minute ago, Husker_Du said:

i have Lilledahl as champ in Crystal Ball. it's very close to be the best case scenario for PSU, although in this forecast Davis and Barr do have the ability to earn ~ 5 more points each. 

I know you are not a big margin of victory guy and Luke has at times even in high school just done enough but does Ramos's dominance and Luke having competitive matches with guys I would consider to be more on the round of 16 level make you want to flip those two? I was on Luke coming into this year but I think Matt Ramos when he believes hes the best guy probably is at least for the time being.

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Luke is not beating Ramos or Spratley.  Spratley has Gilman and RBY as training partners and Ramos was training with Micic in the off season.  Sorry but McHenry is not gonna get Luke to the top.

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Luke is not beating Ramos or Spratley.  Spratley has Gilman and RBY as training partners and Ramos was training with Micic in the off season.  Sorry but McHenry is not gonna get Luke to the top.


It’s kind of weird that you’re omitting coaches and senior level partners in the case of Lilledahl (Nick Lee, Cody Sanderson, Jordan Conaway) as if there’s no one there to coach him or practice with him.

Ironically, the same guys that got Gilman and RBY to the Olympics.

Oh, and Lilledahl has beaten Spratley the last three times they’ve wrestled…as a high school kid.


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3 hours ago, MLB9 said:

You don’t really believe that, do you? The current rankings are close to worst case for Penn State with Lilledahl and Davis working up, Barr will be higher in the next rendition too. You could add Figueroa and remove any PSU wrestler of your choice and Iowa still wouldn’t win.

Let’s make a wager to reset the parameters a bit. I’ll give you 70 points(PSU -70), as I expect Penn State to be around 170 again and Iowa 100. $50 or another incentive if you have another suggestion. I pay my debts if it happens unlike Jimmy. No conditions like injuries or other circumstantial things.

The Flo rankings as of 12/16 have Barr at 5, with PSU having a 34.5 point advantage over Iowa.

The biggest factor in PSU’s favor is that the rankings don’t factor in bonus points…

 

 

Minnow reporting Figueroa to Iowa is in the works, but for next year.  Figueroa did post a photo of himself after NCAA’s to x today which was reposted by Zeke.

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