7 all americans

[Dark Energy]

An idea - 

Make it so only 7 all-Americans.  Same format, but now, blood round winners (not including semifinals) are not clear of risk of non-AA.  Chance wrestler could fall to 7/8 match and then need to win that to be All-American.  No coasting.  7/8 match becomes very very exciting.

Blood round is STILL awesome.  STILL a big deal.  But some tantalizing risk remains.  

Added bonus reasons …

Podium is now symmetric.  3 on each side of first place. 

Now can more easily say if AA - wrestler is top 10% of D1 starting wrestlers.

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Why not get rid of AA altogether? Champion or nothing?

[BAC]

Why not get rid of individual champion awards? Only OW wins anything.  

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, BAC said:

Why not get rid of individual champion awards? Only OW wins anything.  

Let's get rid of weight classes too, make it like kids club, lightest 32 in a weight class then next 32 and so on, no seeds random draw.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

My first thought was...huh, interesting.

But why should 3/4 and 5/6 get to coast, but not 7/8?

[CHROMEBIRD]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Why not get rid of AA altogether? Champion or nothing?

Don't tempt the powers that be. NCAA already got rid of 4th place trophies to save a few bucks. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Don't tempt the powers that be. NCAA already got rid of 4th place trophies to save a few bucks. 

Fourth place trophies are back. I like to think we shamed them into it.

[ionel]

5 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

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Added bonus reasons …

Podium is now symmetric.  3 on each side of first place. 

Now can more easily say if AA - wrestler is top 10% of D1 starting wrestlers.

 

Can we first get a 32 man bracket?  33 is just plan stupid and its certainly not symmetric.  

[lu_alum]

Why don't we just have a three day party for all of the national qualifiers and send everyone home with certificates of achievement?

[Dark Energy]

3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

My first thought was...huh, interesting.

But why should 3/4 and 5/6 get to coast, but not 7/8?

Well, at each round some will break through to AA level.  

On Friday 4 AAs are known first - those in Semis.  After blood round 4 folks are near.  Next round - 2 are into consi semis and they are AA (lowest can place is 6).   Then 7/8 match determines last AA.

An idea for discussion.  Glad there are many here that are capable of an intelligent discussion.  
 

 

Edited November 2 by Dark Energy

[SocraTease]

12 hours ago, ionel said:

Let's get rid of weight classes too, make it like kids club, lightest 32 in a weight class then next 32 and so on, no seeds random draw.  

Let's take this reductio ad absurdum further:  get rid of scoring and rules all together.  Only one person walks out of the arena (venue) alive.  Demolition Derby + MMA + Squid Game ≠ Hunger Games.   

[bnwtwg]

On 11/2/2024 at 2:42 PM, lu_alum said:

Why don't we just have a three day party for all of the national qualifiers and send everyone home with certificates of achievement?

They tried that but the kids ate all the fruit snacks and Capri Suns the parents were handing out and missed weight

[manatree]

On 11/2/2024 at 10:24 PM, SocraTease said:

Let's take this reductio ad absurdum further:  get rid of scoring and rules all together.  Only one person walks out of the arena (venue) alive.  Demolition Derby + MMA + Squid Game ≠ Hunger Games.   

Highlander. Edinboro finally rises to the top.

Edited November 4 by manatree

[peanut]

Why not get rid of weight classes and placement, except for #1. While we’re at it we could also get rid rules against submissions, rules against striking, and time limits. Each team could bring their baddest athlete to the NCAA tournament, and only one will remain standing at the end of it all. That single individual would be worthy of an NCAA title. Imagine the excitement!

[ionel]

While we are at it how about anytime a brick is throw we just have a quick 30 sec coach wrestle off for challenge winner.  

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

While we are at it how about anytime a brick is throw we just have a quick 30 sec coach wrestle off for challenge winner.  

How about they just start using real bricks...

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

How about they just start using real bricks...

That'd be another way to go.

I think my approach would completely eliminate the chance that Iowa would ever throw a brick against Oklahoma State anytime in the foreseeable future, although we'd all like to see Brands try it.  

[MPhillips]

Just now, ionel said:

we'd all like to see Brands try it.

They'd double team DT

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

They'd double team DT

Then two of them would need shoulder replacement surgery.

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Then two of them would need shoulder replacement surgery.

I appreciate your confidence. I do. They'd eat him up...

[ionel]

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

I appreciate your confidence. I do. They'd eat him up...

Have you ever seen a Grizzly bear take on a pack of wolves.  This'd be like a Grizzly taking on two 30lb coyotes.  

[MPhillips]

More like two pit bulls against a German Sheppard...

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

More like two pit bulls against a German Sheppard...

Worth reminder:  them pit bulls are old and haven't got much bite left in em.  Not even sure the still got teeth.