1032004 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 RTC coach makes sense for Scott IMO. He had made comments about how he didn’t seem to like NIL, so now he doesn’t have to deal with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 11 minutes ago, 1032004 said: RTC coach makes sense for Scott IMO. He had made comments about how he didn’t seem to like NIL, so now he doesn’t have to deal with that Is he the head RTC coach or just an assistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Is he the head RTC coach or just an assistant? What do you think?? Besides him being blacklisted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 7/23/2024 at 11:58 PM, Hammerlock3 said: they can't coach Those are fighting words. I feel like I've heard other people say that, and is the sentiment rooted in how nobody can be Penn State? Who can even coach if the Ohio State coaches can't coach? Surely there's more than 1 coaching staff that can coach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: Those are fighting words. I feel like I've heard other people say that, and is the sentiment rooted in how nobody can be Penn State? Who can even coach if the Ohio State coaches can't coach? Surely there's more than 1 coaching staff that can coach. lehigh out coaches tOSU. thats with 1 second of thinking. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said: lehigh out coaches tOSU. thats with 1 second of thinking. Northern Iowa probably another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 7 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: lehigh out coaches tOSU. thats with 1 second of thinking. That's absurd. So they can recruit but not coach? Their success is due to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 11 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: I feel like I've heard other people say that OSU fans especially. To be fair though, they are some of the worst fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 13 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: That's absurd. So they can recruit but not coach? Their success is due to what? recruiting "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/26/2024 at 8:16 AM, juniorvarsity said: That's absurd. So they can recruit but not coach? Their success is due to what? Yes, it’s absurd. Of course they can coach. Why else would so many great recruits choose then? Hammerlock just has a personal dislike for Tom Ryan. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Fred said: Hammerlock just has a personal dislike for Tom Ryan. Simple as that. He does. But he did root for the Buckeyes a couple times last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/24/2024 at 7:10 AM, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Is he the head RTC coach or just an assistant? Stieber is listed as the head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Fred said: Yes, it’s absurd. Of course they can coach. Why else would so many great recruits choose then? Hammerlock just has a personal dislike for Tom Ryan. Simple as that. I don't personally dislike Tom Ryan at all. You could just ask me for evidence they can't coach and expose me as an idiot, or maybe even learn a little something heaven forbid. Its childish to argue with someone and not even bother figuring out what they thing. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 54 minutes ago, MPhillips said: He does. But he did root for the Buckeyes a couple times last season... I don't! "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: I don't! Sigh. I should have put the smiley face thing in there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/23/2024 at 11:58 PM, Hammerlock3 said: they can't coach Why do you think tOSU coaches can’t coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 7 hours ago, 1032004 said: Why do you think tOSU coaches can’t coach? Because their wrestlers are consistently mediocre at skills which are teachable and represent pivotal moments in competitive matches or bridging the gap from winning to dominating. Examples include, front head/head under chest, mat returns, getting off bottom...these are things many programs do solidly up and down their lineups. The also have a tendency for guys to peak really early. Myles Martin, Nathan Tomasello and Bo Jordan are examples of guys who made the gains you make from acclimating to the intensity and physicality of a college room, and then didn't grow or regressed. They also have more weight cuts seem to turn public than most programs. (Sasso, Snyder, Moore). The following shocks me so badly I've gone back to make sure its real a few times, in Stieber's Flo film, he says when he was a freshmen that he used to skip practice because he felt like garbage and would just float off the last few pounds. That's incompetent. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 15 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: I don't personally dislike Tom Ryan at all. You could just ask me for evidence they can't coach and expose me as an idiot, or maybe even learn a little something heaven forbid. Its childish to argue with someone and not even bother figuring out what they thing. Not arguing, just making an observation based on many comments you've made here and the previous forum about Ryan/Ohio state. You're pretty hard on them, so it seems like something else is going on. Ryan has coached two programs to historic heights, and Steiber (your most shocking example) to 4x champ. Can't be as bad as you let on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 3 hours ago, Fred said: Not arguing, just making an observation based on many comments you've made here and the previous forum about Ryan/Ohio state. You're pretty hard on them, so it seems like something else is going on. Ryan has coached two programs to historic heights, and Steiber (your most shocking example) to 4x champ. Can't be as bad as you let on What other coaching staff had a wrestler win an Olympic gold medal while still enrolled in their respective university? Cael? No. Smith?. No Brands? No Ryan? Yes Ohio State is the only program that would have allowed Snyder to focus on freestyle. Which lead to him being the youngest Olympic champion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, The Kid said: What other coaching staff had a wrestler win an Olympic gold medal while still enrolled in their respective university? Cael? No. Smith?. No Brands? No Roderick? Yes Seay? Yes Ryan? Yes Ohio State is not the only program that would have allowed Snyder to focus on freestyle. ftfy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, The Kid said: What other coaching staff had a wrestler win an Olympic gold medal while still enrolled in their respective university? Eggum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 12 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: The also have a tendency for guys to peak really early. Myles Martin, Nathan Tomasello and Bo Jordan are examples of guys who made the gains you make from acclimating to the intensity and physicality of a college room, and then didn't grow or regressed. Despite being upset at NCAAs, I would argue that Myles Martin was clearly a better wrestler as a senior than as a freshman or sophomore. I also think that many elite collegiate wrestlers tend to peak near the end of their redshirt sophomore year and are at a similar level or even slightly below (due to scouting, injuries and HEW) their last two years. I think you can find these examples at every school, heck I think soph Ed Ruth doesn't lose to freshman Gabe Dean like senior Ed Ruth did. That said I agree with some of your points about tOSU, but imo it's a bit too far to say they can't coach. But that is semantics, thanks for going into more detail. Edited July 28 by Gantry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 The Gophers have had at least 3 Olympic medalists that were still in college: Brandon Paulson (Silver), Garrett Lowney (Bronze), Gable Steveson (Gold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Gantry said: Despite being upset at NCAAs, I would argue that Myles Martin was clearly a better wrestler as a senior than as a freshman or sophomore. I also think that many elite collegiate wrestlers tend to peak near the end of their redshirt sophomore year and are at a similar level or even slightly below (due to scouting, injuries and HEW) their last two years. I think you can find these examples at every school, heck I think soph Ed Ruth doesn't lose to freshman Gabe Dean like senior Ed Ruth did. That said I agree with some of your points about tOSU, but imo it's a bit too far to say they can't coach. But that is semantics, thanks for going into more detail. I almost did a clarification of the "can't coach" thing, but I assume anyone who wants to read aggressiveness into what I'm saying is going to do it anyway. I should say, "Compared to programs with comparable resources and many with inferior, tOSU's athletes display a disproportionate amount of unnecessary short comings." 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 7 hours ago, Fred said: Not arguing, just making an observation based on many comments you've made here and the previous forum about Ryan/Ohio state. You're pretty hard on them, so it seems like something else is going on. Ryan has coached two programs to historic heights, and Steiber (your most shocking example) to 4x champ. Can't be as bad as you let on yeah definitely "a thing" for me, the idea probably has more momentum in my consciousness than it should. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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