JD Vance is Trumps VP pick

[JimmyBT]

Good pick. I am shocked it wasn’t a woman or minority though. 

[Ohio Elite]

1 minute ago, JimmyBT said:

Good pick. I am shocked it wasn’t a woman or minority though. 

Exactly what I thought.

[ionel]

Just now, JimmyBT said:

Good pick. I am shocked it wasn’t a woman or minority though. 

Isn't a hillbilly a minority class?  

[JimmyBT]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

Isn't a hillbilly a minority class?  

In Merica????  No.  

Edited 11 hours ago by JimmyBT

[Ohio Elite]

 

[WrestlingRasta]

Not a huge appeal to moderates, we’ll see how that turns out. 

[ionel]

27 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

 

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[VakAttack]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just giving up on trying to get women voters, so that's wonderful!

[VakAttack]

 

I did laugh at this from Nikki Haley's son.

[headshuck]

I think women voters are interested in more policies than abortion this time around.

[VakAttack]

2 minutes ago, headshuck said:

I think women voters are interested in more policies than abortion this time around.

Sure, people can care about more than one thing.  All polling show this issue is paramount for female voters.

[Paul158]

3 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just giving up on trying to get women voters, so that's wonderful!

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court sent the decision on abortion back to each state. You are a smart man. I'm sure you are aware what Ruth Bader Ginsberg said about Roe vs Wade. She said and I quote"It is bad law". She is very pro-choice. Probably the most pro-choice Justice ever. She disagreed with the decision on 2 grounds.

[VakAttack]

Just now, Paul158 said:

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court sent the decision on abortion back to each state. You are a smart man. I'm sure you are aware what Ruth Bader Ginsberg said about Roe vs Wade. She said and I quote"It is bad law". She is very pro-choice. Probably the most pro-choice Justice ever. She disagreed with the decision on 2 grounds.

That's not entirely true, she thought the ruling had the correct result but used the wrong argument; that it shouldn't have been based on the Right to Privacy, but instead on gender equality.  Look, if you think anti-abortion groups are on the politically winning side of this argument, go off king.

[braves121]

16 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just giving up on trying to get women voters, so that's wonderful!

Not surprising seeing this stance when he literally called rape an inconvenience 

[headshuck]

It will be interesting to see where Vivek, Carson, RFKjr, Rubio, Haley etc fit in now.

[ionel]

11 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Sure, people can care about more than one thing.  All polling show this issue is paramount for female voters.

And what do the President & Vice President have to do with the issue? 

[VakAttack]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

And what do the President & Vice President have to do with the issue? 

Well, you see, the current GOP nominee  (and favorite to win again) ran (in part) on overturning Roe v. Wade, and would be responsible for signing any bills that come forward now, including a national ban.  And Vance, as VP, is next in line for the presidency presuming Trump wins, and Trump is an overweight near-octogenarian who eats fast food all the time, so he would have the same powers therein.  What's the argument here, they can't overturn Roe v. Wade a second time?  Like I said, I hope the conservatives think just like you.  Forefront their opinions on this issue!

[Paul158]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

That's not entirely true, she thought the ruling had the correct result but used the wrong argument; that it shouldn't have been based on the Right to Privacy, but instead on gender equality.  Look, if you think anti-abortion groups are on the politically winning side of this argument, go off king.

I am just confused with a few things. When a pregnant woman is killed in a car crash by a drunk driver or crazed individual. Both the mother and her child die. The drunk driver or crazed individual gets charged with 2 murders. Why? I'm not trying to be smart. It looks like 38 states have laws concerning this. 

[PortaJohn]

23 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Sure, people can care about more than one thing.  All polling show this issue is paramount for female voters.

This race comes down to 3 states (WI, MI, & PA) so Trump picked the Mid West guy.  Vance will pivot to align with Trump's campaign strategy.  VP candidates are for the most part insignificant.  Trump has a sizable advantage at this point.  Trump only has to win one of those 3 states I listed.  The only candidate the Dems have that could beat him this cycle is Gretchen Whitmer but Biden won't step aside and if he does they'll make the mistake of running a "coastal elite liberal" to win over midwest voters

Edited 10 hours ago by PortaJohn

[Paul158]

7 minutes ago, ionel said:

And what do the President & Vice President have to do with the issue? 

Nothing. The supreme court sent abortion back to the individual states where it should have always been all along.

[Paul158]

2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

This race comes down to 3 states (WI, MI, & PA) so Trump picked the Mid West guy.  Vance will pivot to align with Trump's campaign strategy.  VP candidates are for the most part insignificant.  Trump has a sizable advantage at this point.  The only candidate the Dems have that could beat him this cycle is Gretchen Whitmer but Biden won't step aside and if he does they'll make the mistake of running a "coastal elite liberal" to win over midwest voters

It looks like Biden will need all 3 . Trump will only need one. With Virginia ,New Hampshire and Nevada leaning red Trump may not need any of them.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Well, you see, the current GOP nominee  (and favorite to win again) ran (in part) on overturning Roe v. Wade, and would be responsible for signing any bills that come forward now, including a national ban.  And Vance, as VP, is next in line for the presidency presuming Trump wins, and Trump is an overweight near-octogenarian who eats fast food all the time, so he would have the same powers therein.  What's the argument here, they can't overturn Roe v. Wade a second time?  Like I said, I hope the conservatives think just like you.  Forefront their opinions on this issue!

No idea how you know how I think.  SCOTUS sent it down to the states correct?  If the P & VP could do something about it then why haven't Joe & Kamala? 

[PortaJohn]

4 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

It looks like Biden will need all 3 . Trump will only need one. With Virginia ,New Hampshire and Nevada leaning red Trump may not need any of them.

Exactly.  I edited my comment to make that point.  And Nevada is not leaning Red, it's going Red.  But even if Biden took Nevada he'd still have to win WI, MI, & PA.  Trump has a massive advantage at this point in the race.  But NH and VA may be trending a little more Red but they are definitely not leaning Red.  Dems still have a lead in those two states.

Edited 10 hours ago by PortaJohn

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

No idea how you know how I think.  SCOTUS sent it down to the states correct?  If the P & VP could do something about it then why haven't Joe & Kamala? 

Because the previous P and VP did something to get to this end and the way our government is set up, it's very difficult to unwind.  Come on, man, don't be purposely obtuse.

[VakAttack]

8 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

This race comes down to 3 states (WI, MI, & PA) so Trump picked the Mid West guy.  Vance will pivot to align with Trump's campaign strategy.  VP candidates are for the most part insignificant.  Trump has a sizable advantage at this point.  The only candidate the Dems have that could beat him this cycle is Gretchen Whitmer but Biden won't step aside and if he does they'll make the mistake of running a "coastal elite liberal" to win over midwest voters

I don't necessarily disagree, although I'm not as "it's over" as you are with Biden.  I don't think he'll win, but I don't think it's necessarily DOA either.  I would rather it be somebody else, and I think a Whitmer-Shapiro ticket would be the best option.